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- From: wizard@teal.csn.org (Michael Willett)
- Subject: FAQ, General Info for Coherent
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- A N I N T R O D U C T I O N T O T H E C O H E R E N T F O R U M :
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- Comp.os.coherent (Usenet) / Coherent list on ListServ@IndyCMS
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- A N I N T R O D U C T I O N T O C O H E R E N T
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- General Information FAQ for the Coherent Operating System
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- C O N T E N T S :
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- What is Coherent?
- Will Coherent run on my system?
- What incompatibilities are known?
- Can I still run DOS?
- What about technical support?
- What revision is Coherent?
- How many people run Coherent?
- Can source postings be made in this newsgroup (comp.os.coherent)?
- Public domain software:
- Where do I get the public domain software?
- Heated discussions of the group:
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- MISC:
- Disclaimer:
- Trademarks:
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- A N I N T R O D U C T I O N T O C O H E R E N T
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- WHAT IS COHERENT?
- Coherent is a multi-tasking, multi-user operating system for IBM PC's
- and compatibles. It will run on most systems with a 286, 386, or 486
- CPU. Coherent closely represents the Unix operating system, but, it is
- not Unix. Coherent appears to be very similar to Version 7 Unix, or
- for those of you that have not had the pleasure, close to System 5
- Unix. Coherent includes uucp (Coherent to Coherent Copy) :) and many
- more functions you would expect with Unix. Coherent is small and
- simple, easy to maintain, and does not require extensive CPU resources
- to operate well. It does not have network nor X windows support, and
- does not require an AT&T license for Unix. It is as advertised, a
- quick, elegant Unix-like multi-tasking, multi-user Operating System,
- with good documentation.
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- WILL COHERENT RUN ON MY SYSTEM?
- Coherent runs on just about all 286-386-486 systems. To list them here
- would make this document far too lengthy. It is suggested that if you
- are in doubt, buy Coherent, and when it is almost beyond a doubt that
- you can not run Coherent on your machine, to return the software and
- documentation to the the Mark Williams Company within 60 days for a
- full refund as per their policy.
-
- WHAT INCOMPATIBILITIES ARE KNOWN?
- IBM XT compatibles will not work, since the Coherent version 3.2
- operating system uses the 286 protected mode. Coherent version 4.0
- only works on 386 or 486 proccessors and operates in the 386 protected
- mode.
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- Coherent will not run on an AT&T 6300, IBM PS/2 model, or with the
- Western Digital WD1004-27X (XT) or other XT controllers. Coherent
- exhibits a slight problem with some 386 AMI BIOS, whereas Coherent
- requires a cold boot (hit the reset switch, not CTL- ALT-DEL) to boot
- Coherent after previously running DOS. The latest revisions of the AMI
- BIOS may not exibit this problem.
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- CAN I STILL RUN DOS?
- Yes, Coherent can reside on a disk partition separate from DOS, and
- likewise DOS on a partition separate from Coherent. You can boot
- either one at boot time via a "boot strap" program. They will not run
- concurrently however. DOS file systems are available to Coherent with
- the Coherent DOS command, so files can be transferred from DOS to
- Coherent, Coherent to DOS.
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- WHAT ABOUT TECHNICAL SUPPORT?
- It is generally felt that Mark Williams Company provides excellent
- technical support of their software within the U.S.A.. They can be
- reached via phone (708) 291-6700, or email:
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- uunet!mwc!support (General uucp address)
- support@mwc.com (Internet address)
- mwcbbs!support (from your system directly to the uucp connection
- they provided by the Mark Williams Company)
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- WHAT REVISION IS COHERENT?
- Coherent is offered in two revisions. Revision 3.2 will run on systems
- with a 286 or higher processor, but does not take advantage of the 386
- architecture, and has the 64K executable and 64K data limits. Revision
- 3.2 is the last revision of Coherent for the 286 protected mode OS. Bug
- fixes will continue to be posted to mwcbbs to support customers of the
- 3.2 version.
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- COHERENT 4.0 was announced in May of 1992, and is targeted for the 386
- and 486 processors. This revision does not have the 64K limits of
- revision 3.2, but, still does not include a virtual memory system that
- swaps pages out to disk. See the 4.0 specific FAQ posted with this FAQ
- for more information.
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- Both versions of OS are available at $99.00, and updates from 3.2 to
- 4.0 are now priced at $79.00.
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- HOW MANY PEOPLE RUN COHERENT?
- The Mark Williams Company has stated that the sales volume has passed
- 40,000 copies since its introduction to the market in 1990.
-
- CAN POSTINGS BE MADE IN THIS NEWS GROUP (COMP.OS.COHERENT)?
- It is somewhat accepted that source for Coherent will be posted in this
- news group occasionally. Keep in mind that large postings cost money
- to those that pay for telephone and connect time, so perhaps a short
- posting to query general interest should precede the posting. Direct
- mailing should be used if there is small interest, and a posting to
- archive sites such as raven.alaska.edu. If the interest is
- overwhelming, a posting to this news group may be in order, along with
- posting to an archive site such as raven.alaska.edu. Posting to this
- newsgroup has been a topic of constant debate... :( We hope to have a
- source news group for coherent, yet another topic of debate... :)
-
- PUBLIC DOMAIN SOFTWARE:
- Several public domain packages are available for use on a Coherent
- machine. These range from improved mailing packages and spread sheets,
- to at least four news programs, such as bsnews, cnews, gnews, wnews,
- along with readers such as rn, tass, tin and more.
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- WHERE DO I GET THE PUBLIC DOMAIN SOFTWARE?
- There are several ways to get public domain software:
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- 1. Mark Williams Company bbs (mwcbbs)
- 2. FTP sites
- 3. Mailserver (ListServ@IndyCMS)
- 4. The OZ / NZ Coherent Users Group
- 5. The Pacific Australian Coherent Users Group
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- MWCbbs (mwcbbs)
- Access information on the mwcbbs is included in the documentation
- provided with Coherent. In short, it is a uucp site with public
- domain software as well as updates to the Coherent release, along with
- Coherent news (not usenet) and a "home" for all Coherent sites to uucp
- to. For most of us, that is a long distance phone call, as the Mark
- Williams Company is located in Illinois.
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- FTP sites:
- Jay C. Beavers has been keeping the Coherent Archives for quite some
- time on the ftp site orca.alaska.edu, and has moved these to an Ultrix
- machine for better access (raven). When a previous ftp site was no
- longer available, Jay quickly put raven into action. Hats off to Jay!
-
- Machine I'net Address Archive administrator
- --------------- ------------- ----------------------------------
- raven.alaska.edu 137.229.10.39 J.C. Beavers:sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu
-
- on raven: cd /pub/coherent
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- MailServers:
- ListServ@IndyCMS has been offering a mailserver service since before
- the start of comp.os.coherent. It is a gateway between two nets:
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- Machine Address Mailserver Administrator
- ------------------------------------ ------------------------
- ListServ@IndyCMS (CREN) IJBH200@IndyVAX (CREN)
- ListServ@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu (Internet) IJBH200@IndyVAX.IUPUI.Edu (I)
-
- Coherent@IndyCMS is bidirectional gateway between the ListServ list
- Coherent and Usenet newsgroup comp.os.coherent co-owned and coordinated
- by John Harlan and Phil Corporon. All original postings to
- comp.os.coherent Usenet group are automatically distributed to the
- ListServ list, and everything posted to the ListServ list Coherent, is
- automatically posted to comp.os.coherent on Usenet. John Harlan
- humorously adds: "And all without mail looping :-)"
-
- To get a list of Coherent files from ListServ, mail the ListServ
- mailserver as follows, with the contents of the message being the
- mailserver command:
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- % mail ListServ@IndyCMS.IUPUI.Edu
- Subject: (none)
-
- INDEX COHERENT
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- Privately Owned BBSs:
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- The Australian Coherent Users Group:
- (From: rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au.)
- In order to support Coherent users in oz & nz, Mark Williams Co.
- have agreed to supply a mirror of the downloads directory from
- their uucp BBS in the states for distribution here [in Australia].
- This is being supplied to the Australian Coherent User Group,
- initially in one 13MB chunk to get things kicked off, then
- subsequently updated on a monthly basis.
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- Software is available to all registered Coherent users, and may be
- obtained either by direct UUCP transfer from this machine, or on
- 1.2MB floppies for a nominal media/postage charge.
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- Anyone interested in this, or in ACUG in general, (as well as in
- APANA - the Australian Public Access Network Association) may
- contact me by email at rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au.
-
- Australia-Pacific Coherent User Group.
- (Robert Chalmers. d10590@tanus.cec.edu.au. Mackay, Queensland. Australia)
- ---------------------* ao zhong youyi wan sui *----------------------
- Privately operated public uucp site, based in Mackay, North
- Queensland, Australia. The system connected 24 hours a 7 days a
- week, apart from some down time for maintenance. Purely Coherent
- system. Technical: Clone 286-20. 2Mb RAM. 40Mb IDE HDD. 1 x 1.2, 1
- x 1.44 FDD. Maestro 2400ZXR Modem. Wangtek Tape Drive.(not yet
- working). Star printer.
-
- Support: Robert can pass on internet fixes and messages to local
- users, such as this FAQ, and hope to be able to pass on via uucp
- the software lists from MWC. Acting as a support site for users
- anywhere.
-
- Contact details: (There are no fees or subscriptions involved.)
- APCUG nanguo!root (AUS) UUCP mwcbbs!nanguo!earth (USA)
- UUCP nanguo!root +61 079-521070 AEST:24 Hours. in:nuucp rd:uupublic
- MYNAME=bbsuser Australia-Pacific Coherent User Group. Info ~/INFO
-
- Currently the site supports uucp using a chat script exactly
- the same as the mwcbbs chat script listed in their manual.
- The public directory is really /u/usr/spool/uucppublic. Note
- the /u..... The default directory is still available for in-
- coming material and the INFO file, which contains most of the
- details concerning me and the site.
-
- Direct login is also available using the following login and
- passwd. login: public passwd: coherent
-
- This is a public user area, mostly used by my students locally,
- but you are welcome to log in and leave mail. (mail root).
- Modem details are: 2400 N81. (v22bis). Please note that you
- MUST have MYNAME=bbsuser in the Permissions file for site
- nanguo, otherwise Coherent will return a site unknown error.
- Even if you only uucp mail to me, mail nanguo!root, all are
- welcome to use these facilities for the exchange of information.
- Bob Chalmers.
-
- HEATED DISCUSSIONS OF THE GROUP:
- Mark Williams Company has a patent on bit ordering, which is a software
- patent. Most think that this is obvious art in software, and should
- not be patentable, not to mention a move in the software world (i.e.,
- FSF) that "software" should not be patentable in the first place. The
- Mark Williams Company has committed to comment on this some time in the
- future.
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- DISCLAIMER:
- ANY REFERENCE TO THIS ARTICLE, IN ANY FORM, IS PURELY AT YOUR OWN RISK!
- All opinions, tips, and instructions in this article are those of the
- contributors, and not of any company associated with the individual
- contributor, or any company mentioned in this article. The information
- contained within is not guaranteed to be free of errors in any way.
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- The intention of this note is only to inform curious usenet readers
- about some aspects of the operating system of Coherent, and those
- companies mentioned are encouraged to add corrections, additions, or
- suggest deletions to this note to as per their policy or willingness to
- provide positive criticism.
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- TRADEMARKS
- Unix is the trademark of AT&T / Unix System Laboratories, Inc.
- Coherent is the trademark of the Mark Williams Company.
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- Michael Willett, mike@array.com uupsi!monarch!mike uunet!csn!monarch!mike
- So much fun, so little time to enjoy it...
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