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- From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Subject: Re: WELL anonymity policy
- In-Reply-To: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.194622.2669@nntp.hut.fi>
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- Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
- References: <T1DcwB4w165w@ruth.UUCP> <1hm9vqINNo3p@agate.berkeley.edu> <1993Jan3.230620.27916@nntp.hut.fi> <1993Jan4.161132.28288@eff.org>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:46:22 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan4.161132.28288@eff.org>, mnemonic@eff (Mike Godwin) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan3.230620.27916@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
- >
- >>This thread has just become one of the numerous ones in
- >>comp.org.eff.talk where the "dissident" is made the target of several
- >>straw man, ad hominem, distortions and other unpolite attacks which
- >>increase to the noise.
- >
- >Don't forget the noise-increasing aspect of the nonspecific accusation.
- >Oh, wait--I see you didn't forget it.
- >
- >One thing that bothers me a lot is the nonspecific accusation--as one a
- >poster asserts that someone has made "straw man, ad hominem, distortions
- >and other unpolite attacks" without specifying who the person is or what
- >postings qualified as such attacks.
-
- It's not an accusation targeted against anyone, it's an observation
- about the newsgroup in general. I don't think it's important to
- discuss publicly _who_ is doing what in a matter like this, but
- instead to be aware of the problem and discuss ways of how to solve
- it. If we start talking about how Jack is being nasty in his messages
- to Jill, the discussion will quickly degenerate into a useless
- kangaroo court handling the writings, ancestry and personalities of
- Jack and Jill, while the issue of how the discussion could be
- imporoved and kept on topic without the noise will be forgotten.
-
- >It's very similar to the McCarthy-tactic of asserting that one has a list
- >of traitors, but never showing the list.
-
- I can't say whether it is, I'm not familiar enough with the purpose of
- the naming of the list or what was achieved by it.
-
- //Jyrki
-