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- From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
- Date: 4 Jan 93 14:28:00 EST
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- triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley) writes:
- > bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
- > >
- > > [ lots deleted ]
- >
- > a wonderful summing up! libertarianism as the ideology of the
- > frustrated children of the elite. of course, none of the randites
- > believes in society (as has been painfully demonstrated on this
- > network), so making an argument, however sensible and consistent,
- > about libertarianism as being cultivated by socio-economic variables
- > rather than the incredible reasoning powers of a few gifted
- > bootstrap-pulling horatio algers is bound to fall on deaf (and
- > hostile) ears. still, nice job, mr. shein. expect, as you
- > anticipate, dozens of replies from "lower class libertarians" (who
- > of course toiled their "self-defeating ethic" of the underclass
- > into which they were born) who will see in their social
- > point of origin a refutation of your argument because they aren't
- > quite prepared to admit that in a libertarian society there'd be
- > no school loans, scholarships, etc.
-
- oh really? since when are all loans & scholarships government granted?
- yet another example of "libertarians are basically selfish pigs" &
- "if the government doesn't do it no one will". both of these are false.
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- remember, it isn't charity if you're using someone else's money.
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- jason
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