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- From: eric@CS.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Allman)
- Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
- Subject: Re: Host search path in subdomain?
- Date: 7 Jan 1993 23:30:38 GMT
- Organization: UC Berkeley Mammoth Project
- Lines: 69
- Sender: eric@mastodon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Allman)
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- References: <1993Jan6.173047.16456@dde.dk>
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-
- In article <1993Jan6.173047.16456@dde.dk>, fll@dde.dk (Flemming Lau) writes:
- |> Why does sendmail not like all other nice net-utilities use the res_search()
- |> routine to resolve a not fully qualified name?
- |>
- |> Example:
- |>
- |> Our domain is dde.dk
- |> We have a subdomain bqa.dde.dk
- |> There is a host Kurt in the dde.dk domain
- |> I can ping the name Kurt on a host in the bqa.dde.dk subdomain
- |> I can NOT mail a user on Kurt from the same host.
- |>
- |> Sendmail.cf files insist on as they cannot find a CNAME for Kurt to
- |> define it as Kurt.bqa.dde.dk which does not exist. Whereas ping etc.
- |> will try Kurt.bqa.dde.dk, Kurt.dde.dk etc. and succeed.
- |>
- |> Why is this and what do I do about it?
- |>
- |>
- |> Thanks for any help!
-
- The answer to this is unfortunately quite complicated, and it starts
- with "it depends on what version you are running." I know Berkeley
- sendmail best, so I'll describe that.
-
- My intent was always that sendmail would do appropriate domain
- searching. In particular, the .cf syntax $[ ... $] was intended
- to do the searching and replace an abbreviated hostname with a fully
- qualified hostname.
-
- However, I had left Berkeley during the period when DNS was introduced.
- The entire file domain.c was not written by me, and it introduced some
- bugs -- notably, a fully qualified domain was replaced => only if the
- short name referred to a CNAME (canonical name, a.k.a. host alias) <=.
-
- Also, the person who put this in apparently assumed that the .cf file
- would fully qualify the name before declaring it as an SMTP host name
- (via the $# mailer $@ hostname syntax), and hence turned off RES_DNSRCH
- when actually opening the mailer connection.
-
- The point of all of this was to avoid the possibility of conflicts
- with top level domains. The most common conflict in university
- computer science departments was with Czechoslovakia -- or .CS. If
- you were in a CS Department (e.g., CS.Berkeley.EDU) and you happen to
- have a host with the same name as something in Czechoslovakia (e.g.,
- vse.CS), then does "vse.CS" mean the one in Czechoslovakia or the
- local one (vse.CS.Berkeley.EDU)?
-
- Because of this, some versions of sendmail have disabled domain searching
- entirely, even for $[ ... $] syntax.
-
- Sendmail release 6 (just released) tries to get around this by searching
- first the name as given then with the local domain extension. For
- example, in CS.Berkeley.EDU, the name vse.CS is tried as:
-
- vse.CS
- vse.CS.CS.Berkeley.EDU
- vse.CS.Berkeley.EDU
-
- If you are just talking about using the name "Kurt" from within
- bqa.dde.dk, you can do this pretty easily -- since all domain names
- must include at least one dot, you can assume that a name with no dots
- must be in your subdomain. This doesn't help you if you also have
- hosts in your superdomain (e.g., Kristin.dde.dk).
-
- Sorry this is so long. Unfortunately, the decision to not include an
- explicit root node in DNS names made it inevitable.
-
- eric
-