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- From: gritz@seas.gwu.edu (Larry Gritz)
- Subject: Re: SIGGRAPH to do online electronic publication
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.194450.25231@seas.gwu.edu>
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- Organization: George Washington University
- References: <gritz@EDU.GWU.SEAS> <9301081838.AA24784@psi.rutgers.edu>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:44:50 GMT
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- In article <9301081838.AA24784@psi.rutgers.edu> CDO@IB.RL.AC.UK (C D Osland) writes:
- >On 8 Jan 93 16:49:18 GMT <gritz@EDU.GWU.SEAS> said:
- >>JPEG is equally
- >>useless, since it is lossy and therefore will be impossible to
- >>distinguish lossy compression artifacts from rendering artifacts.
- >
- >Initially I agreed with this and then thought: Wait a moment - the
- >regular printing process ALSO introduces artifacts - the screens
- >used for quantizing the original artwork. If only methods of
- >reproduction that do not introduce artifacts were allowed for
- >art objects, it would be impossible to produce a catalogue for an art
- >exhibition with any pictures.
-
- Well, yes, this is a good point. Except that we are talking about
- electronic publishing. A major advantage of non-print media is that
- the *original* images (i.e. scientific results) can be distributed,
- *without printing artifacts*. If this undergoes lossy compression,
- it has the same degradation problems as, say, print pubilcation.
-
- >For my money, if JPEG at 2 bits per pixel gives an output
- >that is indistiguishable by expert photographers from the original,
- >that seems to meet the aim, even though it is 'lossy'.
-
- To some degree this is true. You must also remember the stated
- purpose of JPEG -- its lossy compression results are nearly
- indistinguishable from the originals, which happen to be digitized
- natural scenes. That means lots of small detail, photographic grain
- and other defects of the process, etc. Computer generated images,
- being a computational product, are much cleaner. CGI is simply not
- what JPEG is optimized for, and I bet I could tell the difference
- between an original and a 2 bit per pixel lossy compression of most
- computer generated images.
-
- Later,
- -- lg
-
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