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- From: deej@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (david.g.lewis)
- Subject: Re: end-to-end digital connections on ISDN
- Message-ID: <1993Jan6.213355.20207@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
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- Organization: AT&T
- References: <PICONE.93Jan6110826@csc000.csc.ti.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:33:55 GMT
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- In article <PICONE.93Jan6110826@csc000.csc.ti.com> picone@csc000.csc.ti.com (Joe Picone) writes:
- >We currently have a T1 line installed in our lab that has been
- >guaranteed by the long distance carrier (MCI) to provide fully digital
- >connections once the signal has been converted from analog to digital
- >at the nearest (digital) local office.
-
- I don't wish to denegrate the competition, but I believe your carrier is,
- shall we say, overstating their case.
-
- I don't doubt that they can guarantee that the connection is fully digital
- from your lab, to the serving MCI switch, through the MCI network, to the
- far-end MCI switch, and even as far as the facilities from the far-end MCI
- switch to the LEC Point of Termination/Point of Interface. However, it is
- physically impossible for an IXC to guarantee *anything* with regard to
- whether connections beyond the POI are digital or analog or how many D/A-A/D
- conversions a signal will go through.
-
- For instance, the IXC may be able to guarantee that all access facilities
- (from the LEC network to the IXC network) are digital. However, they can
- not guarantee that all Access Tandems are digital. The connection could go
- from an MCI DMS-250 (digital) over digital facilities to a 1AESS(tm) switch
- AT (analog SPC) (1 D/A-A/D), then over analog facilities to a DMS-100 EO
- (digital) (another D/A-A/D) serving an analog loop (a third D/A-A/D).
- Unless MCI is claiming that they have direct access trunks to all digital
- EOs in North America, their claim rests on LEC network topology, which is
- outside their control. And I feel certain that somewhere in North America
- there is at least one digital EO with trunks to an analog SPC AT with
- connections to MCI...
-
- >What are the chances that an ISDN phone will demonstrate the same
- >characteristic (no reconversions)?
-
- It depends on the density of deployment of digital switches and facilities,
- but is no different than the probability of a fully digital end-office-to-
- end-office connection when calling from an analog phone. Voice calls from
- ISDN sets and voice calls from analog sets are treated no differently by the
- networks.
-
- If the percentage of digital facilities and digital switches approaches
- 100%, the probability of an end-to-end digital connection approaches 100%.
- I wouldn't hazard a guess as to what it is now.
-
- >If there is a chance of a reconversion, can some carriers provide
- >special feeds that are guaranteed to be digital all the way? If so,
- >who?
-
- You could always get a private line... :-)
-
- > Some T1s,
- >I am told, actually get converted to analog when they have to pass
- >through a non-digital office (apparently, there are still some of
- >these out there???).
-
- Lots. The 1AESS(tm) switch was the most widely deployed switch in the Bell
- System; given that they were still being deployed in the early 80's, it's
- going to be a while before they're all fully depreciated and replaced by
- digital switches.
-
- >Some carriers claim to deliver end-to-end
- >digital.
-
- I think the big three IXCs all do; the catch, though, is that's end-to-end
- *within the IXC's network*. Once the call gets outside the IXC network,
- it's dependent on what the LEC's deployed.
-
- > Since ISDN is new, and point to point connectivity is
- >probably not yet mature, people are speculating that reconversions can
- >occur. I find this hard to believe.
-
- Don't. There's a lot of embedded base out there.
-
-
- David G Lewis AT&T Bell Laboratories
- david.g.lewis@att.com or !att!goofy!deej Switching & ISDN Implementation
-