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- From: adams@bistro.berkeley.edu (Adam L. Schwartz)
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- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:13:35 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan12.195520.8845@athena.mit.edu> memetral@athena.mit.edu (Max E. Metral) writes:
- >What are some good papers to read to get an intro to fuzzy logic? I'm very
- >interested, but don't know where to start.
-
- Most of the articles appearing in control journals about fuzzy logic
- present fuzzy control in a very positive light. Not everyone in the
- control community feels so strongly in favor of fuzzy control. I
- wrote a technical reply to a fuzzy logic control article which
- appeared in Control Systems magazine. If you're interested in seeing
- opposing viewpoints on the subject my reply and the author's reply to
- my reply are in the Feb. 1992 issue of Control Systems Magazine. The
- original article appeared in that journal in the June, 1991 issue.
-
- There was also an article about fuzzy control in a recent edition of
- Spectrum magazine. That article is an interesting case of exaggerated
- claims by fuzzy logicians. The article focuses on the miraculous
- stabilization of an inverted pendulum with a mouse running around in a
- small cage at the top of the pendulum. The article states that the
- stabilizing an inverted pendulum is a classic control problem.
- However, the classic inverted pendulum problem requires that the
- position of the cart (upon which the pendulum balances) be controlled
- while keeping the pendulum upright. The controller in the article
- only balances the pendulum and does not control the position of the
- cart. This is an important difference because the first problem is a
- "hard" non-minimum phase, unstable problem while the second is not
- non-minimum phase. In fact, looking at the equations for the inverted
- pendulum, if the cart position is neglected, the dynamics are no
- harder to control than a double integrator. As for the mouse at the
- end of the pendulum, its just a disturbance acting through a low-pass
- filter (the pendulum).
-
- I've also seen an article about the fuzzy control of a triple inverted
- pendulum. In that article, the author states that the problem is
- impossible to solve using conventional control. This is, of course,
- absurd. Watch out for these types of claims.
-
- Here are some other observations about the use of fuzzy logic for control:
- 1) Because fuzzy logic does not use a mathematical model of the system to be
- controlled, it is impossible to use state variable observers. As a result,
- many articles about fuzzy control casually include the use of derivatives
- of the output variables. This is obviously causes implementation difficulties
- and noise amplification problems.
-
- 2) Without a mathematical model of the system, it is impossible to conclude
- stability about the closed-loop. Worse yet, robustness analysis is out
- of the question (although some authors have stated that fuzzy control is
- robust!).
-
- 3) The design methodology for fuzzy control is basically trial and error.
-
-
- With all of this said, let me point out that I do see useful applications for
- fuzzy control. Particularly control problems which are basically static in
- nature (and thus more akin to decision making problems.)
-
- -Adam Schwartz
-