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- From: christen@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Carl Christensen)
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- Subject: Re: FESA, Fully Employed Students Association
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- Date: 6 Jan 93 19:04:02 GMT
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- mcclanah@dlgeo.cr.usgs.gov wrote:
- : (stuff deleted) ...some university for 4 or 5 years and work on a degree
- : (and before I get flamed - I raealize that a lot of people have
- : done exactly that and they have sacrificed a great deal in order
- : to get their degree. Why can't we have both???).
-
- Well, as one who quit his job in order to go after a Ph.D. full-time, you're
- not going to like my response! ;)
-
- I think that the reason the Ph.D. is traditionally a full-time pursuit is that
- the level of intensity involved in research and in working with faculty is
- such that you cannot do it in the evenings a few times a week.
- Especially in AI, where things are changing and being discovered constantly.
- You really need to be able to work with profs, other students, read journals,
- and attend seminars on different topics of interest.
-
- Also, and maybe even more important to schools, a part-time Ph.D. would
- take a long time. Even full-time, some people take over 5 years to complete
- their Ph.D. So part-time could be on the order of 10+ years on the average!
- Most schools have a 10 year maximum for Ph.D. work 'built-in' to the
- rules of the college (not just the Comp Sci department).
- And the nature of the work is so different than taking a night
- class, it may be hard to define what part-time work would be at the doctoral
- level. Plus, who wants to punish themselves for that long! :)
-
- One question I would like to ask comp.ai readers is does anyone work for
- a company that would allow a 'Ph.D. Sabbatical'? Or a company that lets
- the employee put in two or three days of work a week, and then work on
- the Ph.D. program the other days. Of course, it would be nice if they
- paid for school, also. Since I think the most important thing in a Ph.D.
- program is to have access to an active campus/faculty and facilities, I'm
- wondering if anyone has done this. Since my T/A duties require 20 hours
- of week anyway, I would think someone could work two or three days a week
- at their company, and be on campus the other days.
-
- Well, good luck on your search! I don't know if you have an M.S. yet,
- but that may be a good place to start, and most schools have a night-time
- M.S.C.S. program. Depending on the school, you can usually take some
- AI and/or AI-related electives as well.
-
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- Carl Christensen
-