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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:11:00 GMT
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- Subject: Why adopt a different theory?
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- From Greg Williams (920105 - 2)
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- >Rick Marken (920105.0800)
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- >I completely agree. Greg's "devil's advocacy" shows that if people don't
- >want to believe in control, they don't have to.
-
- Which begs the question: why might they want to? I think they would want to if
- PCT allowed them to solve problems which they already want to solve but cannot
- solve without PCT. Note that this involves BOTH (1) what nonPCTers want (over
- which PCTers have NO control, only influence -- sez PCT) AND (2) what kinds of
- problems PCT is capable of solving (over which PCTers DO have control, within
- limits). To date, I've seen more emphasis on trying to influence nonPCTers to
- change their notions about what problems are important than on trying to use
- PCT to solve the problems nonPCTers are having problems with.
-
- >No amount of evidence can "demolish" someone's world view; people who wanted
- >to view the earth as a fixed sphere at the center of the universe had no
- >trouble dealing with evidence suggesting that it was not...
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- And today, most people (including me, most of the time) could care less about
- this -- until they need to solve certain kinds of problems. Then, the fixed
- central earth idea fails miserably as an aid. So (to return once more to the
- Sixties resonance), I suggest that PCTers ask not what nonPCTers should do for
- PCT, ask what PCT should do for nonPCTers. More succinctly, but definitely not
- very Sixties-ish, at least as I recall the Sixties: don't waste time arguing,
- beat 'em at THEIR OWN game. Beating them at YOUR game is guaranteed to merit a
- "so what?"
-
- As ever,
-
- Greg
-