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- From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
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- Subject: Re: Political Science Fiction
- Date: 9 Jan 1993 15:19:03 +0800
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- dyfl@kbs.citri.edu.au (Daniel Lam) writes:
-
- >I once heard a talk where the speaker said that science fiction can
- >be roughly classified politically as either libertarian (e.g. Robert
- >Heinlein, Vernor Vinge) or socialist (e.g. H.G. Wells).
-
- Strange, I've never really associated HG Wells with socialism in his SF
- - it's been a while since I read _Tono_Bungay_ (sp?) which seemed to
- advocate a corporatist future (ala some cyberpunk, but set amongst the
- green hills of England :-)
-
- For what appears on the surface to be a very socialist-leaning SF, Iain
- M. Banks' -Culture- series of space-opera is a good example. IMHO,
- anything that annoys hell out of the libertarians should be compulsory
- reading. An American author of 'light' fiction, Lois McMaster Bujold
- consistently shows her more advanced societies as being predominantly
- socialist-leaning, although her background makes it difficult for her to
- be *too* radical ;-)
-
- But seriously, most thoughtful fiction that deals with societies tends
- to make some sort of political stand, doesn't it? I mean, it is very
- difficult to advocate the -status-quo- when you are identifying problems
- with it ... and it's one of the things that a good subset of sf (and
- much other fiction) *are* concerned about. And if your model of
- political belief is such that the two extremes you see are described as
- 'libertarian' or 'socialist' (and what socialist? there are trots,
- marxists, maoists, anarcho-syndicalists, all of whom advocate very
- different styles of society), then you can classify nearly everything in
- those two camps.
-
- >What do the SF fans have to say about this? Can you offer a more
- >elaborate classification? What do you think the impact of science
- >fiction has been on political debate?
-
- Haha. Most fans wear pocket-protectors and coke-bottle-glasses, and
- have little to do with public policy ;-) How can a ghettoised genre of
- fiction make a big impact? Look at massmarket SF - Star Wars (advocating
- liberty in a traditional, aristocrat-dominated state) and its kin, most
- of which seem to be myths and fairytales wrapped up in special effects,
- which don't seem to advocate very much at all.
-
- Peter
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