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- From: nik@nik.b30.ingr.com (Nik Simpson)
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- Reply-To: alt-sys-intergraph@ingr.com
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:54:01 CST
- Message-ID: <1993Jan11.085400.7378@SPM>
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- >>
- >>
- >>First of all, an introduction. I am Jim Kanya and I am the Vice Chairman
- >>of the System Operations SIG for IGUG (formerly the Unix SIG).
- >>
- >>In article <C0JM72.op@nik.b30.ingr.com>, nik@nik.b30.ingr.com (Nik Simpson) writes:
- >>> I believe the reason we do not offer an ftp site for Intergraph
- >>> customers are:
- >>
- >>We have had many discussions about this in the past and Intergraph has
- >>refused to be the FTP site. Their reasons were stated by Nik and I
- >>tend to agree with the reasons. We thought we found a customer willing to
- >>be an FTP site at last spring's IGUG, but it never panned out.
- >>
- >I think too much is being made of this. A firewalled anon ftp site is
- >pretty trivial to set up. You might ask why I dont volunteer then ?
-
- You have to remember that you are not dealing with a technical issue,
- although maintaining a firewall is not as trivial as you would like to
- believe. Intergraph has very good reasons for only allowing outgoing traffic
- except for News and Mail.
-
- >Two reasons
- >1- I think this is something that ingr should provide. It is a selling point
- >for them.
-
- Frankly I doubt that it would be much of a selling point. If it
- was so important to government and other net connected customers
- we would start seeing it as a mandatory requirement for business.
- I see alot of proposal requests, none have ever mentioned the need
- for a PD software ftp site. In short, it would be nice to have one
- but I don't think you can make a business case for it.
- >
- >The reason that not many people will use it seems a trifle lame. With all
- >government,DOT's, defense contractors that Intergraph sells to on the internet
- >"If you build it they will come".
-
- Possibly, but I have my doubts, depends a bit on what sort of
- software etc. customers would make available, what did you have in mind.
-
- >How many customers even know there is
- >an alt.sys.intergraph ? Also many commercial sites I know of dont even carry
- >alt news groups. BTW is this alt newsgroup freely available at ingr ?
- >
- I try to publicize its existence as much as possible. I agree that
- the alt hierarchy is not the best place for it, if someone wants to start
- a vot on creating a comp.sys.intergraph I would be delighted. I haven't
- done so myself for two reasons:
-
- 1) The traffic in this group is low, about 250 messages in the last
- year. However on looking at the comp hierarchy there aer many
- groups with lower turnover.
-
- 2) I think the CFV would be better coming from a customer rather
- than Intergraph itself.
-
- >Selling PD CD's doesn't hack it at all. Turn arounds in getting patches, bug
- >fixes, new versions, exchanging trivial software all get interminably dragged
- >out, as well as is being a more expensive option.
- >
- I totally disagree here, since the idea would be to make software
- available to as many customers as possible. Net access must not be a
- requirement. CD as a distribution media is ideal, it is cheap to produce
- and simple to distribute.
-
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- | Systems Software Consultant. Intergraph Corporation |
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