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- From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
- Subject: Re: Education Regarding Alternative Family Units
- Message-ID: <1993Jan04.011347.19932@jcnpc.cmhnet.org>
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- Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 01:13:47 GMT
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- Paul S Galvanek (psg+@pitt.edu) wrote:
- : In article <1992Dec31.172225.2131@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com> greg_
- bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt aka The Lensman) writes:
- : >
- : >Show me where a value is being attached to the fact that something (such as
- : >homosexuality) exists. Yes, young people must be taught to "accept" that
- : >they exist, just as we must "accept" that Aryan Nation exists and has a
- : >right to exist, but simply stating the fact does not automatically imply
- : >that one must approve of them.
- :
- : Simply by bringing homosexuality, or any specific group, into the class
- : room you make a value statement. By teaching it you're saying; this
- : is worthy of our time and the special attention it's being given.
- :
- : If tolerance is really the goal, and I don't believe it is for a moment,
- : then why mention homosexuality in any way shape or form? Why not simply
- : teach in social studies, or like classes, that no one has the right to
- : attack or abuse or mistreat other people for no reason (I believe the
- : "golden rule" might be a good place to start) You can teach tolerance
- : for people without teaching tolerance for gays, straights, this group or
- : that group. The very fact that people insist that homosexuality be given
- : "equal time" is a sex ed class implies that this type of behavior is
- : the moral equal of heterosexuality. You may believe that, fine but
- : it's not your right to make that determination for everyone else.
-
- The very fact athat people insist on suppressing discussion on homosexuality
- implies that this type of behavior is not the moral equal of heterosexuality.
- You may believe that, fine but it's not your right to make that determination
- for everyone else.
-
- :
- : The basic problem with the idea that tolerance for gays should be mandated by
- : law and taught in schools, is that it flows from the false notion that ALL
- : discrimination is wrong. It's not! To dicriminate is nothing more than
- : to make choices, it's the ability to discern what we like from what we don't
- : like and distance ourselves from what we don't. Sometimes we as a society
- : have decided that SOME types of discrimination are based on false prejudice
- : or lack of accurate information - Blacks are all lazy uneducatable thieves,
- : was a fairly common description of an entire race up until recently and
- : it was simply false, so we stop it.
-
- Homosexuals are all child molestors is a fairly common description of an entire
- class of people. It is simply false, and we must stop it.
-
- : Where discrimination of gays, to the extent that it even exists, differs
- : is that it's based on mostly accurate information about known behavior.
- : Tell a person what it means to be a homosexual and you will get a reaction.
-
- Homosexual: To be sexually attracted to people of the same sex.
- My reaction is, Ok.
-
- : Behavior, that's the key word! People always have and always will make
- : judgements about others based on behavior and will usually choose not to
- : make relationships with those who engage in behaviors or acts they find
- : distasteful. The simple fact is most people find homosexual behavior to
- : be anywhere from unacceptable to outright repulsive. Sorry but like
- : it or not you can never make people accept what you do.
-
- Like it or not, you will never get people to accept blacks as equals.
-
- :
- : This past summer, I believe, either the New York Times or the Wall Street
- : Journal (I'll try to find out which) had an article on what the actual
- : impact of education concerning AIDS and homosexuals usually is. The
- : jist of the story was that some studies indicated that often time the
- : more information given to people about these subject, the more like they
- : were to be intoleratant and view gays in a negative light. People simply
- : know what behavior they consider acceptable and which they don't and you
- : can not force people to accept someone else value judgements on behavior
- : or the people that engage in that behavior.
- :
- : It's NEVER going to work!
- :
- : PSG
-
- Sorry, but I have more faith in human nature than you do.
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