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- From: thom@crayfish.ucsd.edu (Thom Cleland)
- Newsgroups: alt.native
- Subject: Re: Question of Nativity
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- Date: 11 Jan 93 02:02:18 GMT
- References: <9301061453.AA16852@mamia.tecumseh.edu> <C0HC9n.Fsq@news.iastate.edu>
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- In article <C0HC9n.Fsq@news.iastate.edu> s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
- >In article <9301061453.AA16852@mamia.tecumseh.edu>, Peshewegunzh <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia!peshe> writes:
- >>Original-Sender: Peshewegunzh <mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia!peshe>
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- >>Besides being incorrect, genetically and otherwise, this is an
- >>attempt to diminish us as merely another facet of the new European
- >>order rather than being the rightful owners and occupants of this
- >>continent. Send this idea back to the Hell it must have come from.
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- >Peshewegunzh, I think I understand the anger which prompts this statement,
- >and certainly agree that "Siberian-Americans" is a foolish and
- >unfortunate formulation.
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- >Even so, does it really further your cause to insist on the notion that Native
- >Americans are the "rightful owners and occupants of this continent"? Is such
- >ownership--and the sort of understanding of occupancy that follows from the
- >notion of ownership--consistent with the traditional worldview of your
- >people? Does our discussion of the justice and dignity your people
- >require--and that Euro-Americans had damn well better learn to see are
- >required of *us*--truly depend on this notion of "rightful ownership"?
- >It just seems to me that an ideological position that insists on justice in
- >accordance with this idea of "rightful ownership" is bound to be self-
- >defeating as a point of discussion with Euro-America, however important it
- >is to insist on this point within your community.
- >
- >Respectfully,
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- >michael mcdonald
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- >>American Indians are *not* "Siberian-Americans". Get real. Learn
- >>some history (if it still has any meaning in academia).
- >>--
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- >>Peshewegunzh
- >>
- >>peshe%mamia.UUCP@mthvax.cs.miami.edu
- >>mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia.UUCP!peshe
- >>peshe@mamia.UUCP
- >>mthvax!mamia!peshe
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