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- From: jammer@eskimo.com (Lyle Harwood)
- Subject: Re: Question of Nativity
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.103141.15035@eskimo.com>
- Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:31:41 GMT
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- michael bruce mcdonald (s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu) wrote:
- : In article <9301061453.AA16852@mamia.tecumseh.edu>, Peshewegunzh
- <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia!peshe>
- writes:
- : >Original-Sender: Peshewegunzh <mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia!peshe>
- : >
- : >Besides being incorrect, genetically and otherwise, this is an
- : >attempt to diminish us as merely another facet of the new European
- : >order rather than being the rightful owners and occupants of this
- : >continent. Send this idea back to the Hell it must have come from.
- :
- : Peshewegunzh, I think I understand the anger which prompts this
- statement,
- : and certainly agree that "Siberian-Americans" is a foolish and
- : unfortunate formulation.
- :
- : Even so, does it really further your cause to insist on the notion
- that Native
- : Americans are the "rightful owners and occupants of this continent"?
- Is such
- : ownership--and the sort of understanding of occupancy that follows
- from the
- : notion of ownership--consistent with the traditional worldview of your
- : people? Does our discussion of the justice and dignity your people
- : require--and that Euro-Americans had damn well better learn to see are
- : required of *us*--truly depend on this notion of "rightful ownership"?
- : It just seems to me that an ideological position that insists on
- justice in
- : accordance with this idea of "rightful ownership" is bound to be self-
- : defeating as a point of discussion with Euro-America, however
- important it
- : is to insist on this point within your community.
- :
- : Respectfully,
- :
- : michael mcdonald
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- :
- : >
- : >American Indians are *not* "Siberian-Americans". Get real. Learn
- : >some history (if it still has any meaning in academia).
- : >--
- : >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- : >Peshewegunzh
- : >
- : >peshe%mamia.UUCP@mthvax.cs.miami.edu
- : >mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia.UUCP!peshe
- : >peshe@mamia.UUCP
- : >mthvax!mamia!peshe
- : >
- : >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- : >
-
- Round and Round we go.
- Remember that we are speaking English. This is not my ancestrial
- language, although it is my native one.
- Do any of us belong to a circle whose traditional name
- does not translate into "Human" or "Human Being" or "Man" or
- "Mankind" or "People" or "The People" or some such?
- And didn't the Grandfathers consider everyone else to be not only
- not of the circle, but less than Human?
- And were there not, in fact, other circles that were and are human?
-
- So.
-
- My point is this. These are labels. They have no power.
- The only power they contain is that assigned by the listener.
- If I call you a fool, you can assign no power to it, or you can go
- to war over it.
- The power does not reside with the word.
-
- People can call me by my name, or they caal me San Poil, or they
- can call me Colleville, or they can call me American Indian, or they can
- call me Native American, or they can call me Native, the First Native,
-
- or they can call me fool.
-
- None of it matters.
-
- How I react is what matters.
-
- Even if "they" are trying to take that-which-is-mine, the words, the
- labels,
- have no power. "They" can never own that-which-is-mine. Nor can anyone
- change what I am, by assigning yet-another-label.
-
- Be carefull, Brothers, you are fighting for nothing.
-
- Jammer
-