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- From: Steve Smith <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!SIVM.SI.EDU!SECSI003>
- Subject: Question of Nativity
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:47:40 GMT
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- Original-Sender: Steve Smith <SIVM.SI.EDU!SECSI003>
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- From: Steve Smith
- Institutional Studies Office
-
- Intersting point and proposition...I can't wait to see the responses. For
- myself, I haven't thought my response through, but I'll write some intitial
- reactions...
- It seems a matter of time as to whether or not one is called a native. Asians,
- African Americans, and Euro-Americans can all trace themselves back to another
- continent much more recently than can we. 40,000 years ago (which I believe is
- now the earliest date recognized as our having been in this hemisphere) all
- of the aforementioned would be in their respective continents as indicated by
- the prefixes.
-
- To look at it another way, are 2nd generation Turks in London considered
- British? Are 3rd generation Ghanans in Paris considered French? I don't think
- so, at least not when I was in those cities. How long before they would be?
- And how long would their ancestors have to have lived in England or France for
- their Turkish or Ghanan prior residence (not origin) to be forgotten, or to
- not matter?
-
- Most people in this hemisphere consider themselves "Americans", but most can
- also go farther than that. A relatively short 500 years ago would give them
- a different identity, and even 10,000 years ago would find most Europeans
- in Europe, most Africans in Africa, most Asians in Asia, amd most of us here.
- I think if people are going to identity themselves with an ancestry that was
- largely the same from 10,000-500 years ago, why not us? We're about as native
- a human group to this hemisphere as you can get. Would we lose that identity
- if we were en masse shipped to Europe, Africa, or Asia and lived there for
- many generations? After a couple hundred years in that situation could/would
- we call ourselves Native Europeans? Native Africans? Native Asians? And what
- would the "original" Europeans, Africans, and Asians think if we did?
-
- If you want to refer to us as Siberian Americans, than I think that everyone
- in this hemisphere ought to go back 40,000+ years and use their residence at
- that point for themselves.
-
- I know these dates aren't strict, but that's the kind of problem you run into
- in trying to select another name.
-
- Like I said, I haven't thought this all the way through, but that's my
- intitial reaction. I'm looking forward to reading others...
- Smithsonian Steve Smith
-
- ---> Show that the definition of a nonrandomized monotone
- decision rule is consistent with the definition of a
- randomized monotone decision rule. Or is it????
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