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- From: ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen)
- Subject: Re: Almah in Isa 7:14
- In-Reply-To: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu's message of 6 Jan 93 19:55:55 GMT
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- Date: 7 Jan 93 21:56:48
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- In article <1ifdgbINNau4@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:
- > In article <LJMORLY.93Jan6195742@polaris.utu.fi> ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen) writes:
- > >No one denies the above, but I don't see how that is your point --
- > >it merely explains the means that the modern scholarship has. I thought
- > >we were discussing about the meaning of 'almah'.
-
- > That's what I thought as well. It means "young woman."
-
- Aw stop deleting what you've written before me. You only described some
- ways that the modern scholarship has in reseach, and didn't say a word
- about 'almah'.
-
- [...]
-
- > >> > Harvey is a scholar
- > >
- > >> By whose definition?
- > >
- > >Anybody's except anti-missionaries'.
-
- > What are his qualifications? Does he publish in peer-reviewed
- > journals? So far the only material I have seen from him appears
- > to be deliberately misleading or flat out wrong.
-
- Oh really ?
-
- > >> Hardly, we've already agreed that Harvey belongs to some period
- > >> of medieval "scholarship."
- > >
- > >Who have agreed ? You, RL and Dubi Krulwich.
-
- > No. I was referring to you and me. I think that you and I agree
- > that Harvey Smith belongs squarely in the community of some
- > medieval scholars, albeit not among the more enlightened ones.
-
- We don't agree.
-
- > ... In case you have not
- > noticed, I have based virtually all of my comments on the
- > scholarship of Christians.
-
- Maybe you haven't noticed that this newgroup is about Messianic
- JUDAISM. :-]
-
- > >> Nothing of the sort has been proven. It has been asserted. The
- > >> alleged proof is worthless.
- > >
- > >This kind of statement is worthless. You don't seem to be able to reply
- > >to the issue itself, but instead keep repeating the same old assertions.
-
- > An amusing position. I have made no assertions of my own on the issue
- > of "almah."
-
- And that's the problem ! I have ! You can come up with as many scholars
- as you like and that doesn't have any effect on the issue itself, since
- we aren't discussing what scholars to trust to, but THE MEANING OF THE
- WORD 'ALMAH'. Now, if you haven't anything new to bring up to the issue
- itself, I wish I don't need to waste my time anymore.
-
- > ________________________________________
- > Jack F. Love | Opinions expressed are mine alone.
- > | (Unless you happen to agree.)
-
- - Laura
- --
- "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government
- will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Councellor,
- Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." - Yeshaya 9:5 (9:6)
-
- "To the Jews who had believed him, Yeshua said, "If you hold to my
- teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth,
- and the truth will set you free."" - Yochanan 8:32-33
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