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- From: young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young)
- Subject: Re: Your own words, of course != bigot
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- In article <C0ACKI.9xw@NeoSoft.com> jpsb@NeoSoft.com (Jim Shirreffs) writes:
-
- > [Lots of interesting stuff deleted to get to MY point :)]
-
- > Secular morality is obeying the laws (criminal) that govern our
- > society. These laws where legislated by *our* representatives. If a group
- > feels this laws infringe on their rights then an appeal to the counts
- > is an effective recourse. Organizing into special interest groups so
- > as to effect change at legislator level is also popular. The bottom
- > line is that secular morality is defined in criminal law statues, and
- > represents the will of society. The contractual agreement
- > between the people and government represents the collective wisdom
- > of many generations. Breaking this contract
- > (the law) is preaching the trust between an individual and society
- > and is of course punishable. Secular reasoning has been that sodomy
- > (butt f*****g) is immoral, that is why there are laws
- > against it.
-
- Not too long ago, Jim, there were laws prohibiting merchants from
- doing business on Sunday. Do you maintain that there was a secular
- reason for this, representing the collective wisdom of many
- generations? If so, what reason?
-
- The law, as a living body, is constantly subject to change. Even
- strict constructionists have to be influenced by prior law and the
- zeitgeist, protestations to the contrary aside.
-
- --
- Peter Young
- young@erim.org
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