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- From: vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
- References: <1992Dec24.234313.26934@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <1992Dec28.075957.19167@wetware.com> <1992Dec28.154215.13989@rchland.ibm.com> <1992Dec29.000622.24041@ncsu.edu> <C073yL.IF8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:46:07 GMT
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- parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes:
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- >dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
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- >>In article <1992Dec28.154215.13989@rchland.ibm.com>
- >>jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
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- >>> This is the same attitude I have seen from pro-lifers
- >>> all along. They'll get arrested to save a life, but
- >>> once the baby is born they could care less. Try to get
- >>> some of these folks to support social programs like
- >>> WIC or foodstamps.
-
- >>Actually, most pro-lifers that I know support social
- >>programs like WIC and foodstamps. And the poor tend
- >>to be the strongest opponents of abortion.
-
- >Something just doesn't sit right when people in poverty are having more
- >children than people who are well off. And people wonder how a country can
- >end up with 1% of the population owning 99% of the wealth. It's sad.
-
- Ahh.. yes.. I understand you here. It's horrible that anybody should
- become successful by their work, and the work of their parents. God forbid.
-
- >>But I don't follow your reasoning. If someone supports
- >>the criminalization of an immoral act, then why must they
- >>support those who wish to commit that act? Does my support
- >>of rape laws imply that I must satisfy the desires of
- >>potential rapists? If not, then what's the difference
- >>between that and abortion?
-
- >Hold on. In the case of rape, the attacker is adding a burden to society
- >through hospital care and police investigation of a violent crime. In the
- >case of abortion, a burden is *removed* from society. (or an individual,
- >depending on whether you think society or the parents should be responsible)
- >It is not the one doing or having the abortion, it is the child that results
- >from *not* having the choice of abortion that we expect you to support. Your
- >rape analogy does not hold.
-
- Ahh.. so removing burdens from society then allows me to ignore any moral
- or ethical considerations to the contrary? I think bums are a burden
- on society, let's kill them all. We'll cut them into little pieces
- just like when we abort babies.
-
- >>>Jared Dahl
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- >>Doug Holtsinger
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- >-Rob
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- Edward Simmonds
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