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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Re: Government-run programs Was: Re: Justification for the Space Program
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- References: <1992Dec29.011735.16300@cs.rochester.edu> <C00w78.H6E@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1992Dec29.145537.9264@cs.rochester.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:41:06 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec29.145537.9264@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
- >In article <C00w78.H6E@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
-
- >> Progress cannot be made when the Luddites are running the show. It is
- >> only perceived threats to the country which can get reasonable action
- >> by any government. Where would astronomy be if the attitude of such as
- >> Paul Dietz prevailed? Our benefits from astronomy are very few indeed.
- >> Any society which tries to prevent people from climbing mountains is
- >> oppressive, and the same goes for space exploration.
-
-
- >A masterful example of doublespeak. Bleah.
-
- >Listen, astronomers don't have any right to a blank check of the
- >treasury. Nor do space fans, or aerospace companies. And questioning
- >government priorities is not the same as proposing that people be
- >prevented from some action. The government doesn't subsidize mountain
- >climbing; why should it subsidize much more expensive space escapism?
-
- >Astronomy, in the absence of government funds, would be supported by
- >private funds, as it was before the government horned in. Comparing
- >the cost/scientific benefit of Keck vs. HST, this would, I think, not
- >be a bad idea. No doubt funding would be lower, and no doubt Herman
- >thinks this is an incredibly bad thing, with no further reasoning
- >necessary.
-
- >This doesn't belong in sci.space, so I've directed followups
- >to talk.politics.space.
-
- You are right about this. If we want man to get out into space, we
- will have to get the governments of the world to keep out of the way.
- The private money CAN be raised, but only if there are no restrictions
- on how it is spent. This should also be the case for other research;
- we have already passed the point where the presence of the government-
- supported research "system" has decreased real research. But it has
- destroyed the previous funding system in the process.
-
- There are other government interventions than the obvious ones. Notice
- that NSF is proposing to remove much of the funding for pure research.
- Also, there are major restrictions on what research can be done and
- can be applied. Just as with the educational system, the government,
- almost just by being in it, is killing human progress.
-
- --
- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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