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- From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
- Subject: Re: Your own words, of course != bigot
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.173753.11993@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:37:53 GMT
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- In article <C01x89.MC1@NeoSoft.com> jpsb@NeoSoft.com (Jim Shirreffs) writes:
- >
- >Do you get the feeling that I disapprove of homosexual sex?
- >Does that make me a bigot? I don't think so. It is my
-
- I do.
-
- >contention that anal intercouse is WRONG, men butt fucking other men is
- >not a cute idiosyncrasy. It is a serious pervertion of the human body,
- >and the human soul, both in form and function. I cann't believe that
-
- You say. Who cares? It doesn't affect you, so mind your own business.
-
- >society is even debating this issue. If homosexual sex is simply abnormal
- >when how come we don't see our dogs (male) and cats (male) giving one
- >another head?
-
- I have seen dogs and other animals, especially monkeys, do just that.
-
- >If I am correct that homosexual sex is wrong am I still am bigot?
-
- Since it's a value judgement, the question has no basis.
-
- >If homosexual sex is not wrong then it should have the same moral
- >standing as heterosexual sex, then what? Group sex, sex with animals
- >sex with dead people, sex with children, etc. If you are going to break
-
- Grouping gay sex with these things is a very old tactic. Don't do it.
- It makes you look dumb.
-
- >a 2000 year old precident, you better have a very good reason. And you
-
- "Precident [sic]"? I hope you're not referring to a specific religion,
- or its tired old handbook, since the world is comprised of many different
- religions and beliefs, and I'm sure you're too open-minded to assume that
- yours is "the only way".
-
- >had better be prepared to demostrate the correctness of your view.
- >Simply calling me a bigot does nothing for your argument. Ive been called
- >alot worse. Prove to me that butt fucking is a legitimate expression of
- ^^^^^^^^^^
- Not surprising.
-
- >love between two men. Prove to me that society will not be harmed by the
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- OK. It occurs untold times each day between male couples who love each
- other.
-
- >further erosion of our J/C moral The issue here is not tolerance,
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- "Our" J/C moral??!! How dare you speak for anyone other than yourself.
- Get a grip and mind your own business. You J/C types are often really
- pushy and self-righteous, you know that?
-
- >homosexual have acheived a great deal of tolerance towards thier life
- >style. Not satisfied with the tolerance society has towards gays, they
- >now want thier deviant acts legitismized. Well your are simply asking
-
- Yeah, society has lots of tolerance. :-( I won't waste my time
- pointing out the obvious to the closed-minded.
-
- >to much of this old straight conservative. I will listen, but don't
- >expect me to roll over.
-
- I don't know what you mean by "roll over". However, some
- open-mindedness and/or "let-and-let-live" thoughts would be nice, esp. from
- (I assume) a Xian.
-
-
- --
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- Howard Black cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
- Department of Chemistry Eastern Illinois Univ.
-