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- From: bdm@cs.anu.edu.au (Brendan McKay)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
- Subject: Re: Solutions to the problem? (was Re: Sgt
- Date: 31 Dec 1992 05:23:47 GMT
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- In article 1@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu, ifaz706@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu () writes:
-
- > I found the following a couple of weeks ago in the Documents
- > on German Foreign Policy 1918-1945 (you are probably aware
- > of them).
-
- > The first, from Aug, 1940 contains a draft declaration by
- > the Arab Committee (headed by the Mufti), which states
- > that "Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab
- > countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements in
- > Palestine and the other Arab countries [!!! - NT] in a
- > manner that conforms to the national and ethnic interests
- > of the Arabs, and to the solution of the Jewish question
- > in the countries of GErmany and Italy" (Series D, Vol. 10,
- > Doc.403).
-
- > The second, from Sept, 1940 describes a later version of
- > the proposal. Among other things it calls for recognition
- > of the Axis Powers in the "right of the Arab countries to
- > solve the Jewish question in the national and racial
- > interest on the German-Italian model" (Series D, Vol. 11,
- > Doc. 35).
-
- > That these do not include genocidal wishes is hard for me
- > to accept.
-
- If these were dated 1943 it would be hard to argue, but they are
- dated 1940. Almost nobody considered the "German-Italian model"
- to include genocide in 1940. (In the case of Italy, it never did.)
- You must also remember that the Mufti was not then (or ever) a
- confidant of the Nazi inner circle. What can be seen in these
- documents is a straightforward case of ass-licking. The Mufti
- was (a) convinced that the Axis would win the war, and (b) totally
- disenchanted with the British. Since he foresaw that the Germans
- were going to replace the British as the colonial masters of the
- Middle East, he sought to use active collaboration as a way of
- winning German support for his ambitions (which naturally
- included a Palestine under his own control). In his
- communications with the Nazis, his deliberate aping of their
- rhetoric is really obvious.
-
- Incidentally, nearly everything in the preceding paragraph can
- be also said about Lehi, who continued trying unsuccessfully to
- strike a deal with the Nazis until at least the end of 1941.
- (However, I do not consider these two examples to be equally
- reprehensible, as I have said here many times.)
-
- This is not terribly relevant, but recently I found a US
- intelligence report of 1944 which said the Lehi was being
- funded by Italian Intelligence in 1940 to the tune of about
- $2000 per month. I don't know how solid their information was.
-
- >> As for the 1948 time period, Husseini's part in it has been rather
- >> overblown. The fact is, most of the Arabs of Palestine ignored
- >> his call to arms (except in the direct defence of their own
- >> villages). Most of the "irregular" Arab forces in Palestine
- >> during the 1947-8 war were volunteers from other countries.
- >> I will also mention the large number of local peace agreements
- >> signed between neighbouring Arab and Jewish villages.
-
- > That he was ignored by some (large or small) parts of
- > the Arabs of PAlestine does not reduce a bit from what
- > his "draconian ideas".
-
- That's true, but it is relevant to how widely you might want
- to spread the blame.
-
- >Noam
-
- Brendan.
-