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- From: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz)
- Subject: Re: Lawrence Mass.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.182055.18743@guinness.idbsu.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:20:55 GMT
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- In article <105573@bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
- >I must admit that the anti-gun control people have pointed out
- >flaws that I had not considered with restriction of availabilty
- >of firearms and ammunition. I do however feel that mail order
- >ammo is ridiculous.
-
- the concern with mail-order ammo is access, and you're assuming
- that mail-order access somehow facilitates crime. yet you've
- no evidence for this.
-
- >No guns are not the only weapons out there, but they
- >are by far the weapon of choice with criminals.
- >
- actually, this claim is also unsubstantiated (e.g., "weapon
- of choice" is an HCI catchphrase - but a gun certainly isn't
- a "weapon of choice" for unarmed robbery, is it? ack.)
- even if guns were the "weapon of choice," gun bans don't
- stop criminals. so why disarm the rest of us?
-
- >Still,being more Anarchist/Libertarian minded, goverment controls
- >of any kind are diststaful to me.
- >
- i'll agree with this one.
-
- >So that leaves me with the Anarcho-Capitalist Enclave.
- >A place where you can lower probabilities of crime.
- >
- >Consider what the Police in Lawrence Mass are doing now:
- >
- >In a for 4 block area known for drug dealing and prostitution
- >they have "sealed off" the area. Residents are given "passes".
- >There are checkpoints where the police will ask to your
- >license and registartion, they give you a card explaining why
- >you were stopped and they record your licence plate number.
-
- this isn't anarcho-capitalist. this is nazi-gestapo.
- welcome to the USSA. and you don't like government controls?!?
-
- >The first effect is on Suburbanites who come into the
- >city to buy drugs or sex. Not activities you want veiwed
- >in the harsh light of day. The second is that the high visibilty
-
- of course not. the prostitutes and drug dealers will merely
- set up shop a few blocks away! this is a useless approach from
- the get go.
-
- >of the police has also reduced the number of people loitering
- >(of which might be drug dealers and prostitutes).
- >It seems to be working. Streets where children dared not play
- >or old people dare not venture are now safe.
- >
- yeah, and no tell us about the adjacent areas where all the
- prostitutes and drug dealers have set up shop. ack.
-
- >It may not last:
- >The ACLU is taking legal action against the Lawrence Police.
- >
- as well they should. if it weren't for their gun stance, i'd
- still be a member...
-
- drew
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