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- From: mikepb@lupus.dell.com (Michael P. Brininstool)
- Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.214700.20448@raid.dell.com>
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- References: <105088@bu.edu> <22924@drutx.ATT.COM> <LAMBERT.92Dec22034830@nankeen.spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:47:00 GMT
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- In article <LAMBERT.92Dec22034830@nankeen.spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au>, lambert@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Tim Lambert) writes:
- >>>>>> On 17 Dec 92 20:32:55 GMT, ljb@parkcity.dr.att.com (BLO54620-BonhamLJ(DR2194)240) said:
- >
- >> The point I wish to make is that what one will not find when
- >> perusing the news papers are any stories about crimes being foiled
- >> by gun owning victims, despite the fact that the NIJ (Nat'l
- >> Institute of Justice) estimates that between 600,000-900,000 crimes
- >> are prevented or stopped each year in the U.S. by lawfully armed
- >> citizens. This out numbers by more than 3 to 1 the number of crimes
- >> committed anually, with or with out firearms. In other words, don't
- >> believe everything in the papers.
- >
- > And don't believe everything you read in this newsgroup. According to
- > the National Crime Survey, there are 80,000 crimes each year where
- > guns are used in self-defence (not always successfully), and there are
- > 800,000 crimes committed with guns each year in the US. I'm not sure
- > that the ratio (used against criminals)/(used by criminals) makes much
- > sense, but it seems to run about 10 to 1 against the good guys.
-
- Tim doesn't understand what is being said. The 80,000 cases of defensive
- gun use is what was reported. I, personally have used my handgun
- defensively three times in the past ten years. Never has it been reported.
- The estimated 600k-900k defensive gun uses are of this type, where because
- of the gun, NOTHING happened. Therefore, NOTHING was reported!
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- | #include "std/disclaimer.h" || MICHAEL P. BRININSTOOL mikepb@lupus.dell.com |
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- | IF LIBERALS INTERPRETED THE 2ND || "An armed society is a polite |
- | AMENDMENT, THE WAY THEY DO THE FIRST, || society!" -- Heinlein |
- | CARRYING A GUN WOULD BE MANDATORY! || |
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