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- From: bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio)
- Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.drugs
- Subject: Re: Guns and Age
- Date: 21 Dec 1992 18:58:37 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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- In a previous article, PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) says:
-
- > That's the theory anyway. There's a good argument to be made for
- >restrictions on minors, but I really don't see one for the 18 vs. 21
- >gap.
-
- As a minor, you are not a "full" citizen, with all the rights
- that go along with it. While the cutoff age is arbitrary, it does make
- sense to make such a distinction. I've heard people argue that the voting
- age should be lower, 12 or 16 years I think (this was on NPR, btw. I
- thought it was rather funny. It seemed like a desperate plan to get more
- Demo voters). The 18-21 gap seems like a flaw to me. I think there should
- be a clean cuttoff. 20 yrs seems like a reasonable compromise, for the
- "age of full responsibility", voting, buying alcohol, owning guns, etc.
- 20 seems in some ways better than 21 because it is a turning point: the
- teenage years are behind you. 24 would also be ok, but 25 would be an
- outrageous tyrany. 8^)
-
- At pre 21 it seemed dumb that buying alcohol was illegal, though
- I had little interest in it. Now that I'm past that, the "unfairness"
- of the restriction doesn't bother me at all. I don't care.
- You don't like it kids? Tough, get old. 8^).
-
- Though many 18 year olds would dissagree with this, there is
- some, often a great deal of, maturing that takes place beetween 18 and 21.
- I know I was a different person at 18 than I was at 21.
-
- I think part of the reasoning of the "no pistols at 18" rule is
- that many (most?) 18 year olds still live in the teenage world. (ie don't
- appreciate the consequences of making straw man sales to their little
- friends, still have the "pack" mentality, are not mature in their thinking:
- less respect for laws [what me worry? I'm too smart to be caught], poorer
- judgement over what is or is not really a situation that requires lethal
- force*. etc etc.) Some 21 year olds still do, but you've gotta cut it off
- somewhere. ;^) Ditto for the "no alcohol sales at 18" rules.
-
- * "but judge, I had to go pop him. He called me up and threatened my
- life: I had no choice!"
-
- Jim Del Vecchio
-