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- From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
- Subject: Re: How to Protect Women
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:11:24 GMT
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- In article <bob1.725059087@cos> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
- )In <1992Dec21.042405.1584@fulcrum.oz.au> steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor) writes:
- )
- )>Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- )
- )>>In my humble opinion, IF I were in an abusive relationship, I would LEAVE! I
- )>>would never allow it to degrade to a situation where I was in a life and death
- )>>struggle and was forced to use deadly force in order to prevent someone from
- )>>using deadly force against me.
- )
- )>It's not that simple. Leaving can be a risk in itself. Do you have the
- )>courage to leave when you know that you're risking much more extreme
- )>violence? Yes, leaving is the right thing to do, but it's no always safe.
- )
- )It sure isn't. Note that many of the stalking cases were women who
- )elected to leave an abusive relationship, only to have the abuser
- )track them down.
-
- This seems rather alarmist to me.
-
- Here are some figures from 'Fatal Violence among Spouses in the
- Unites States', 1976-85, by Mercy & Saltzman
-
- Victim
- Spouse Homicides Husband Wives
-
- Single Victim Single Offender 7105 9262
- Multiple Victim Single Offender 10 218
-
- Ex-Spouse Homicides
-
- Single Victim Single Offender 131 195
- Multiple Victim Single Offender 0 100
-
- Other Spouse-Related Homicides
-
- Multiple Offender 147 46
- Justifiable 107 6
-
- These are total figures (based on police reports - the Uniform Crime
- reports - for a *10 year period*.)
-
- Though it is certainly important to see that justice is done in cases
- of stalking leading to homicide, I think it is rather alarmist and
- inappropriate to paint it as a common occurence. (This is in spite of
- the imperfections in the police report data which Mercy & Saltzman
- discuss in their study, such as, for example, incosistency in police
- classification an identification of common-law marriages.)
-
-