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- From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
- Subject: IMPOSTOR WRITES: "Renegade Hebrew" Who Committed Genocide on Armenians
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.051047.7269@urartu.sdpa.org>
- Summary: response to a fool!
- Keywords: Nogales Bey, Inspector-General of Turkish Forces in Armenia, WWI
- Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:10:47 GMT
- Lines: 95
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- In article <cB95VB1x346w@Beneath.the.Crescent> AN IMPOSTOR, Nogales_Bey@Beneath.
- the.Crescent (Rafael De Nogales) wrote, apparently in response to one of my
- dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) postings, wrote:
-
- [IMPOSTOR] Recently 'mr ignorant slut' said:
-
- Have you heard of dos2unix? It seems not, given the number of ctrl-Ms in your
- posting...speaking of ignorant!
-
- [DD] You sir, were fooled. I personally refuted every bit of his revisionism,
- [DD] exposed every one of his omissions, deletions, etc. I guess you never
- [IMPOSTOR] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- And who OMITTED and DELETED and COVERED-UP his/her/its name in this posting!!!
-
- [IMPOSTOR] and quoted from my book:
-
- [DD] [1] _Four Years Beneath the Crescent_ Rafael De Nogalas, Inspector General
- [DD] of Turkish Forces in Armenia and Military Governor of Egyptian Sinai
- [DD] During the War, Translated from the Spanish by Muna Lee, Charles
- [DD] Scribner's Sons, New York, London, 1926, page 17
-
- [IMPOSTOR] But he "forgot"(i.e. 'omissions, deletions, etc') to quote this:
- [IMPOSTOR]
- [IMPOSTOR] "Had the Armenians been more prudent and less ambitious, they would
- [IMPOSTOR] probably control Turkey today. But they set themselves to star-
- [IMPOSTOR] chasing and tried to subdue the Turks of the eastern provinces,..."
-
- No, Mr. IMPOSTOR, I just didn't the entire page, just like YOU didn't quote the
- enire page!
-
- [IMPOSTOR] Yes you guessed right the page number is, again, '17'.
-
- [IMPOSTOR] He didn't have the guts to quote this either:
- [IMPOSTOR]
- [IMPOSTOR] "there can be no doubt that the Turk, in spite of all his
- [IMPOSTOR] defects, is the first soldier and the first gentleman of
- [IMPOSTOR] the Orient,"
-
- You who posts as an IMPOSTER, refer to others as "not having the guts"? You
- coward!
-
- [IMPOSTOR]
- [IMPOSTOR] and again, I finished my book saying:
- [IMPOSTOR]
- [IMPOSTOR] "As the last shoreline vanished my thoughts were filled with
- [IMPOSTOR] memories of the valor, devotion and uncomplaining sacrifice
- [IMPOSTOR] of the Turkish soldier. Suddenly I felt as if an icy hand
- [IMPOSTOR] had vehemently grasped my heart; and without reasoning why,
- [IMPOSTOR] I stood at attention and saluted those rose-tinted horizons
- [IMPOSTOR] and orange blossom skies which swung now like a veil before
- [IMPOSTOR] the land where I was leaving so many brave comrades sleeping
- [IMPOSTER] the sleep of death beneath the flowery sod of its mountains
- [IMPOSTER] and the burning sands of its deserts..."
-
- [IMPOSTER] Merry Christmas to the first soldier and the first gentleman of
- [IMPOSTOR] the Orient,
-
- [IMPOSTOR] Nogales Bey
-
- So, Mr. IMPOSTER, what is your point? Since you don't have a point, please
- explain what the REAL De Nogales said on pages 26-27:
-
- "And while speaking of the Turkish army let me add, with no fear whatever of
- being mistaken, that the regular army of the Ottomans was entirely innocent
- of the Armenian massacres. It not only disapproved of these massacres, but
- would even have prevented them forcibly if it had been able to do do. It
- would not only be an injustice, but contrary to the truth in every sense of
- the word, to look upon the army as an accomplice to, or to try to make it
- responsible for, the errors committed by some of its members who formed part
- of the Committee of Union and Progress. Among the civil members of that
- Committee, only one conspicuous by force of personality, that was the
- renegade Hebrew (donme) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the
- massacres and deportations, who fishing in muddy waters, succeeded in raising
- himself from the humble rank of postal clerk to that of Grand Vizer of the
- Empire. The other civil members of that organization such as, for example,
- Dr. Nazim, and Ramy and Bedri Beys, were only fallen angles who, unable to
- resist temptation, permitted themselves to be converted from upright men into
- ogres, their blood-stained hands laden with gold." [1]
-
- -- Inspector General of the Turkish Forces in Armenia, Nogales Bey
-
- - - - reference - - -
-
- [1] _Four Years Beneath the Crescent_ Rafael De Nogales, Inspector General of
- Turkish Forces in Armenia and Military Governor of Egyptian Sinai During
- the War, Translated from the Spanish by Muna Lee, Charles Scribner's Sons,
- New York, London, 1926, pages 26-27
-
-
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