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- From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
- Subject: Re: Fundamental Questions.
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- Date: 21 Dec 92 21:07:58 GMT
- References: <BzGw2z.82q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <2B324295.12886@news.service.uci.edu> <BzML3J.58y@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
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- In article <BzML3J.58y@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
- >In article <2B324295.12886@news.service.uci.edu>
- > sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy) writes:
- >>
- >> In Tamil Nadu, Chettiars (Nagaraththar, VaaNiyar, Komutti etc.),
- >> Balija (both Tamil and Kannada speaking and EVR belongs to the
- >> later), Kamma, VeLLalas (like Saiva veLLaaLar, veerakkudi,
- >> vELaaLar etc.), Reddiyars, are few of the non-brahmin upper castes that
- >> are forward castes. However, the major opposition seems to be
- >> always from Brahmins, in spite of having an effective control
- >> over central government bueracracy, which other castes lack.
- >>
- >Very informative. Thanks.
- >Are mudhaliyaars, naidoos also included in above? Many among them are
- >also in the 'socially high status' people, as well as being well of
- >financially. Are there further 'sub reservations' or simply two
- >divisions, 'forward' and 'backward'?
-
- I think (not sure) Sengundha Mudhaliyars/Arcot Mudhaliyars are
- forward caste. Naidus, Balija and Kamma, are forward castes.
-
- There was a 'sub reservation', within backward, called
- 'most backward', comprising few really backward castes, like
- vannaar, ambattars etc and the one that was a very large
- population is vanniyar. Earlier DMK regim decompartmentalised
- BC reservation, thanks to the powerful castes within the BCs,
- making narikkuravar (yes the nomadic narikkuravars
- are 'backward' caste, which in my opinion should be put in
- Scheduled Tribe category), ambattar, vannaar etc. to compete with,
- Mudhaliars, Kongu gounders etc. Not only that they increased the
- % of BC reservation (from 27% to 32% ?) and included few more
- castes, which were forward castes before (Kongu gounder was one
- of them).
-
- This is the main reason, for Vanniar uprising, which is genuine
- in my opinion (I come from Vanniyar dominated region). They rightly
- blamed DMK as their No.1 enemy, but instead of showing their anger
- on the higher castes within BC, who were stealing their share, they
- vented their frustration on the poor Scheduled caste people. This
- is because two reasons: (1). They saw many Scheduled caste people,
- who were lower in caste, overtaking them and (2). it was easier to
- attack them than the other powerful backward caste people.
-
- After converting Vanniyar Sangam into a political party, PMK, they
- are trying to patch up the SC community, but the latter still looks
- at them with doubt.
-
- >
- >> M.Sundaramoorthy
- >> sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu
- >
- >
- >KS
- >
-
- -MS
-