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- From: joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen)
- Subject: Re: more than 50% support TI
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.083921.25818@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
- Sender: news@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Mr. News)
- Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
- References: <1992Dec30.211918.3032@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <1992Dec31.000403.16725@cbnews.cb.att.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:39:21 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.000403.16725@cbnews.cb.att.com> liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao) writes:
- >From article <1992Dec30.211918.3032@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, by li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li):
- >> Not only China but also Thailand etc other countries will catch up us if we
- >> dont move to upmarkets. It is just principle of economics and why this has
- >> anything to do with independence? Do you really think independence can
- >> avoid China's dominance? then how about Japan, just look at our trade
- >> deficit with Japan? How about S. Korea, our current competitor?
- >>
- >
- >Yes, as long as we export different levels of product, how do China
- >dominate us? Is it possible that China dominate Japan in 50 years?
- >My answer is no.
-
- I'm pessimistic about Taiwan's ability to upgrade her industry. Although
- there is some R&D in Taiwan, overall it's far from adequate. Most Taiwan's
- businessmen have no interest in high-tech industry. When the labor in
- Taiwan gets expensive, they simply move to other countries where labor is
- still cheap. A great part of Taiwan's investment is for low-tech industry
- in other countries now.
-
- Korea might come close to Japan in technology someday. But Taiwan is not
- on the right track so far.
-
- >My point is the current "status quo" situation significantly slows down
- >the pace of our economic reform. Independence is a way to break through
- >to me.
-
- Taiwan's economic reform relies on the establishment of high-tech industry.
- This includes setting up the technological foundation and healthy research
- environment. I don't know how this can be related to TI.
-
- >>>If we were catched up by China someday, it
- >>>would become an "unfair competition." Taiwan would be in danger at
- >>>that time.
- >>
- >> "unfair competition"? Why?
- >>
- >
- >Okay, assuming Taiwan and China export the same product at the same price.
- >What is going to happen if China decide to "punish" Taiwan by declaring
- >to the world: "If you import something from Taiwan instead of China, China
- >will take back your market share of whatever in China." "Unfair" may be
- >too strong since China has a much bigger market is a fact. Think about
- >a population ratio of 50:1 and a consumption capability ratio of 10:1 now
- >and 20:1 ten years later. (10:1 and 20:1 are my guesses.) By the same
- >token, other developing Asian countries would not be serious threats if
- >they caught up with Taiwan because they don't have much bigger markets
- >compared to ours and we are no enemy to them.
-
- Should Taiwan declare her independence, will China give up the idea
- of "punishing Taiwan"? Probably not. There will still be an unfair
- competition.
-
- On the other hand, if China's economy catches up with Taiwan's, then
- the barrier to peaceful unification will be much smaller. When the day
- of unification comes, Chinese and Taiwanese are no longer enemy to each
- other, and Taiwan can have a much bigger domestic market to sustain her
- economy. There will be no worry about the "unfair competition" then.
-
- >There is a problem though. What if China do the same thing to us even
- >if we export high value-added products? Anybody want to comment on this?
-
- After unification, this problem will disappear. :)
-
- When the protectionism prevails someday, which is likely to happen in
- the future, Taiwan will need a big domestic market to sustain her economy.
- In my opinion, we Chinese need to stand together for our better future.
-
- -- Chien-Chung Chen
-