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- From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
- Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal article by ImranAnwar
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- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:59:22 GMT
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- mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
-
- >India never releases the religious proportion of people who died in rioting.
- >But I am not doubting his figures, it may be true that more Muslims have
- >died. But this is not due to any bias on the part of the police. A few
- >years ago Hindu fundamentalists I think led by the BJP held a rath yatra,
- >the UP govt did not allow them to pass through their state, saying it would
- >flame communal hatred. When the yatra tried to enter UP, they arrested
- >Advani, and the police fired at the fundamentalists. Hundreds were killed
- >in the shooting. This is the reason the BJP came to power in this state,
-
-
- BETA , BJP WILL AGAIN COME TO POWER WITH AN AMAZING MAJORITY .
-
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- >the UPites felt that the Police was too brutal on a peaceful rally. The point
- >is that more Hindus died then because the Police was trying to control a
- >Hindu mob, and more Muslims died now because the Police was trying to control
- >a Muslim mob. But these incidents are tragic, but IMHO the police did the
- >right thing, we cannot allow the mob to take the law into its own hands.
- >
- >>
-
- >This is true that their share to to top govt post and post gradaute degree
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >is smaller. But this proves nothing. The Rajputs in India form more than
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- HEY HEY ,
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- THIS PROVES THAT THEY ARE INCAPABLE . WE KIND HEARTED
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- HINDUS HAVE NEVER PREVENTED THEM FROM DOING ANYTHING .
-
-
-
- >12% of the population. They too have a much smaller share in these two areas.
- >It means that either
- >1. They are not interested in those jobs
- >or
- >2. They do not have the educational traditions to compete with others,
- > in India getting these opportunities is really difficult. All have
- > competative examinations, and the examiners do not know the identity
- > of the examinees. So there is no question of bias.
-
- >But the Rajputs have a higher representation in politics and land ownership.
- >Similiarly the Muslims have higher representation in the Indian
- >film industry and politics.
- ^^^^^^^^^
-
- B'COS THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY DIRTY POLITICS
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- MUCH BETTER THAN US .
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- >>
- >>Even to India's forefather, the obvious threats to unity of an Indian nation
- >>were relegious differences. They knew that even with the mass exodus of
- >>Muslims to Pakistan, there would still be the likelihood of religious
- >>trouble later. It was with this in mind that the Indian leaders raised
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>the flag of secularism. They must have hoped that secular dream would keep
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
-
- HOW GENEROUS OF US !
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- BUT THESE MUSLIMS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND
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- WE SHALL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN .
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- THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT BJP SAYS . TRY TO UNDERSTAND ITS PHILOSOPHY
-
- YOU FOOLS .
-
-
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- >>the Indian unit intact, but both their fears and the hypocrisy of indian
- >>secularist statements are exposed today.
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-
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- DON'T PROVOKE ME TO GIVE GAALIS TO YOU >
-
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- >>
- >>There are three major religious groups in India. Hindus are the predominant
- >>majority, followed by Muslims and Sikhs. It should come as no surprise
- >>that the two biggest internal threats to India are the continuing struggle
- >>by Muslim Kashmir to end Indian occupation and obtain its right of self-
- >>determination and efforts by Sikh Punjab to secede from the union that has
- >>brought it nothing but persecution based on differences in reiligion.
- >>
-
- >Sikhs are the largest subgroup in the Indian army, they are also one of the
- >richest communities in India. The CM of Punjab is a Sikh and the number 2 man
- >in the Indian govt is a Sikh. I dont know what persecution he is talking
- >about.
-
- THERE IS NO POINT IN TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM < JUST GIVE
-
- THEM SOME DIRTY GAALIS AND THEY WILL UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING .
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-
-
- >Is he envious of the high regard our PM enjoys here? What does this
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- ATLEAST HE IS NOT AFRAID OF GETTING HANGED
-
- BY THE ARMY GENERAL .
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- WAH RE WAH PAKISTAN .
- THORI SHARAM KAR LE .
-
-
- >paragraph have to do with the Ayodhia situation?
-
- >>
-
- >The demolition of the Mosque may be preplanned, but that does not mean
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- YES OF COURSE IT WAS . SO BLOODY WHAT ???
-
-
- >PVNR knew about the plan in advance. Kalyan Singh was responsible to protect
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- KALYAN SINGH CAME TO POWER IN ORDER TO
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- MAKE A MANDIR THERE ( WHICH ALSO MEANS
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- DESTRUCTION OF THAT MOSQUE )
-
-
- >the Mosque, which he promised to do, there was no reason for him to take
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- HIS PROMISE TO THE PUBLIC WAS THAT HE WOULD BUILD A
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- RAM MANDIR THERE AND RESTORE THE PRIDE OF THE HINDUS .
-
-
- >precautions from his side. When the BJP did not live upto its promise
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- ABEY JAA , BJP IS THE ONLY PARTY WHICH LIVED UPTO
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- ITS PROMISE . IT GAVE AN AMAZING DEMONSTRATION OF ITS CAPABILITIES
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- TO OTHERS AND SHOWED THE WORLD HOW TO KEEP A PROMISE .
-
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-
-
- >did he not dismiss all the BJP govts, arrest their leaders and ban their
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >grass root organisations. Also he does not criticize the GOP and GOB
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- NARASHIMA IS GOING TO PAY HEAVILY FOR IT .
-
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- >for not taking any measures to safegaurd their minorities, it was more
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- DON'T USE THIS WORD .
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- I HATE IT .
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- SAY ' THE MUSLIMS ONLY '
-
-
- >obvious to them that there was going to be a retialation. I also suspect
- >he does not know the meaning of genocide.
- >>
- >>The Muslim minority does not represent an economic threat to the hindu
- >>majority, nor does the destruction of mosques and the killing of Muslims
- >>open up new avenues of economic prosperity for Hindus. Instead, it just
- >>sends out a signal that ethnic cleansing has commenced, and now no mosques
- >>or Muslims are safe.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- ABEY ....... ,
-
- YOU LEAVE ME WITH NO OPTION OTHER THAN TO GIVE GAALIS .
-
- .......
-
- ......, ......., ,,,,,,,,
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- ANYWAY , I LEAVE YOU THIS TIME .
-
-
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-
-
- >This guy is a hate-monger. What centuries-old desire? Read any Indian
- >history book, Akbar is known as one of the greatest kings to rule India.
- >Our national pledge says all Indians are our brothers and sisters, and we
- >Hindus have always been sensitive to our Muslim brothers and sisters
- >wishes. We have a different laws for Muslims, Vande Matram was not
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >made our national anthem when Muslims objected, the GOI plays a big
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >role in helping Muslims visit to Mecca. We were one of the first countries
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >to ban Satanic Verses, we did not interfere in Afghanistan and Iraq as Indian
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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- CHCHEE - CHCHEE
-
- SHAME ON YOU GOI .
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- >Muslims may see that as anti Islam.
-
- >Manoj
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- THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HATE .
-
- WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PAMPER THE MUSLIMS SO MUCH ????
-
- IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL .
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- WE HAVE DIPLOMATIC RELATION WITH PAKISTAN JUST BECAUSE THE MUSLIMS CAN
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- VISIT THERE RELATIVES AND DO SOME ANTI INDIA PROPAGANDA .
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- THIS IS APPEASING THE MUSLIMS OR NOT ????
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- WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE ANY RELATIONS WITH IRAEL FOR SO MANY YEARS
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- I ASK YOU WHY THE HELL DO WE SEND OUR DIPLOMATS TO THAT SHAMELESS
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- COUNTRY TO GET HARASSED , IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT THE ROOT CAUSE
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- OF MOST OF THE TROUBLES IN INDIA IS THAT FUCKING PAKISTAN .
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- THE ONLY THING THAT INDIA OWES THAT COUNTRY IS A STRONG KICK
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- ON ITS BUTTS .
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- KUTTE KO GAALI NA DOON TO AUR KYA KAROON .???
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- JAI HIND .
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- DEEPAK
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