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- From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
- Subject: Re: Pakistan
- Date: 2 Jan 1993 16:49:16 -0600
- Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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- In article <1i4qkuINN4b2@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
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- :As far as I understand the history of the partition goes as follows:
- :Iqbal was interested in the upliftment of Muslim masses and he did not
- :believe that the solution can be achieved by the socialism as followed
- :by Nehru. He envisioned a solution based on the framework of Islam. But
- :he also knew that this solution cannot be based on the framework of a
- :secular India as the majority Hindu population will never accept a solution
- :based on Islam. However, Iqbal died long before the actual scenerio of Pakistan
- :became clear; so any amount of blame for the bloodshed should not rest on
- :him. I think he would have been the first person to protest and die a la Gandhi
- :if people were killed in the name of Hindustan/Pakistan.
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- Good. I agree upto this point, because it all agrees with the facts.
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- :
- :Jinnah was not interested in Islam per se; but he found Iqbal's premise logical
- :and went on ahead with it.
-
- This is not supported by Jinnah's actual "words" and "efforts" towards
- the freedom of Pakistan. It is based on conjecture and circumstantial
- evidence about the way he used to dress, and live. As such, it makes
- good splashes in tabloids like "Freedom at Midnight", whose goal
- was not to write an objective history, but the goal was to make money.
- History is not written by people like Le, piere (sp?).
-
- :He envisioned an essentially secular state but where
- :Islamic solutions can be implemented. His personal ambition also played a big
- :role.
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- This statement conflicts with the previous one. Both can not be true
- simulatneously. "Need for Power" or "personal ambition" as defined
- in psychology is totally subjective, and can always be applied to any
- leader.
-
- :Muslim league local level leaders did not understand any of the grandidose
- :plans of either Iqbal or Jinnah but mounted a pure hate campaign which as
- :expected went out of hand.
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- I can agree with the above, because their actions after the formation
- of Pakistan and after the death of Jinnah, testify to their intellectual
- and mental bankruptcy in not being able to provide coherent future
- direction and goals.
-
- :The similar situation can be seen in RJB issue
- :today. While the politicians like Advani may want to use the RJB as a political
- :lever or symbolic protest the ground level Vajrangdal will go on simple hate.
- :
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- Can't say any thing about RJB, because I don't say much. Whereas, I can
- say this much about Pakistan Movement that it was fired by visions
- of the future much grandiose than destroying a these mosques here and
- killing few Muslims there.
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- :Jamat-i-islami leaders like Maududi did not have a political agenda. They were
- :interested in the spread of Islam and thus opposed partition. As by definition
- :it will prevent Islam from spreading into any of the remaining Hindu areas.
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- I agree. Politics of leaders like Maudoodi was subservient to the
- cause of the spread of Islam. Unlike Azad's opposition, however, this
- meant that casue of spread of Islam must continue whehter there are
- politically one geographical entities or hundred. Hence, JI split
- into two components, one in India, the other in Pakistan. Both taylored
- their politics to the political realities on the ground. Whreas, JI Hind
- remained apolitical because that benefitted the Muslims of India,
- JI Pakistan became vociferously political because Pakistan was formed
- in the name of Islam, and as such should become example of it, rather
- than some hodgepodge of secularism, socialism, and democracy.
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- :The bottom line is that Islam nowhere dictated that Pakistan must be created
- :; but Pakistan was created because of Islam
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- And from this fact arose the following "compulsion":
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- If a country has already been created in the name of Islam, then
- it should truly be made to subscribe to Islamic Ideals.
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