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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:40:30 GMT
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- In article <1hbgk4INN13q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan)
- writes:
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- > >The creation of the Jewish state of Israel solely on the basis of religion
- > >which resulted in the mass expulsion of Arabs and non-jews is derided by the
- > >entire muslim world and possibly by a large number of Pakistanis; but I've
- never
- > >understood how the creation of the muslim state of Pakistan was justified in
- the
- > >same breadth by the same people.
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- > >--Javed.
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- > Pakistan and India were Created by bisecting pre-1947 India.
- > People who lived in post-47 India were living there for centuies.
- > Similarly people who lived in Pakistan lived there for Centuries.
- > i.e. Baluchis, Panjabis, Sindhis, Bengalis, and Pathans. Yes, huge
- > trans-border migration took place, but all of the people who now live
- > in Pakistan and India, lived in pre 47 India for thousands of years.
- > Israel on the other hand was created for bringing people who
- > did not belong to Palestine. In other words, Jews who live in
- > todays Israel, most of them are of non Palestinian ancestary.
- > i.e. people of pre 1948 Palestine <> people of Jordan + People of
- > Israel + People of West Bank
- > of river Jordan.
- >
- > but people of pre 1947 India = people of modern Pakistan
- > + people of modern India.
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- I'm not disputing the fact that the people of India and Pakistan belonged to
- pre-partition India. I am disputing the ideology that resulted in the creation
- of these religion inspired countries.
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- In the case of Israel, the majority of the Jews around the world are Semites,
- like the Arabs and descendents of the Jewish tribes of the ancient biblical land
- comprising present day Israel, who were exiled from their lands.
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- My argument is that if religion is the sole justification for creating Pakistan,
- then the creation of Israel also cannot be faulted on that token.
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- Before people get worked up, I must make it clear that I support the claims
- of the Palestinians in their fight against Israel because the foundation of
- the Israeli state is based on morally unacceptable and illegal premises.
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- But I see the same parallels, though not of the same magnitude, in the creation
- of Pakistan.
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- --Javed.
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- > Mansoor Khan
- > Cleveland, Ohio
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- One addendum:
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- The real difference between pre-creation and post-creation of
- Pakistan and Israel is that Pakistan's borders were defined by
- the principle of creating a country in a region where there already
- was a Muslim majority. However, Israel's principle was to find a place
- first and then settle it with Jewish immigrants from around the world.
- Palestine had a far greater Arab population under Turks as well as
- British
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- Omar
- omar.faroq@att.com
-