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- From: kamine@is.rice.edu (Jorge Hershel Kamine)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
- Subject: Re: Cuban Rights Advocate Beaten and Detaine
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- Date: 28 Dec 92 16:32:40 GMT
- References: <GILBERTO.92Dec14130442@united.zzz.pe.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1992Dec15.135806.21414@zeus.ieee.org>
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- In article <1992Dec15.135806.21414@zeus.ieee.org> jbarth@ep.ieee.org writes:
- >Of course it is wrong to beat up political dissidents. No decent
- >person would disagree with that sentiment. Human rights groups
- >have regularly documented and condemned human rights violoations
- >in Cuba. As Gilberto points out, however, you'd likely be
- >"desaparecido y muerto" in many other countries.
- This does not make it acceptable. With all the imperfections in
- the U.S., people still have a protected right to express their
- political beliefs. I cannot in good conscience overlook the
- oppression of free speech exerted by the Cuban government on its
- people. Furthermore, as a U.S. citizen and taxpayer, I object to
- U.S. support (either openly or by its silence) of governments
- that oppress these rights. You may call this cultural or
- idealistic elitism, but I feel the freedoms we enjoy in this
- country are inherent rights with being human. Finally, I think
- we defeat this aim by applying a double standard in many cases.
- However, the question in this case is Cuba.
-
- >But there are human rights violations taking place in the US
- >everyday that have been substantially eliminated in Cuba,
- >such as homelessness and lack of access to medical care.
- This may be true in some cases, but I would hardly call the
- quarantining of AIDS patients in an extremely restricted
- environment as being accessible medical care. Additionally, a
- Spanish documentary on current conditions in Havana should
- unmaintained and unsafe conditions in much of the housing which
- would have long been termed as "condemned" in the U.S. Although
- Cuba hardly has the economy that the U.S. or other industrial
- nations have, I think it should be noted that access to the
- supplies needed to improve the housing has been available through
- Mexico and other Latin American and non-Latin American countries.
- Why wasn't money spent on this needed repairs instead of sending
- soldiers to fight in Angola?
-
- >Health is also a human right, and it's still not guaranteed
- >in the US, in case anyone missed hearing about that little
- >secret during the recent presidential election.
- This is true, but I don't think that the availability of
- healthcare in Cuba somehow makes the severe repression of what we
- in the U.S. consider civil rights acceptable.
-
- >Of course, some people will see children's milk and medicine
- >as just a sinister tool to prop up the repressive Cuban regime.
- >Maybe the bibles that the ministers in the delegation were
- >bringing down will be additional misery to the Cuban people.
- No, but it undermines the effort to use economic pressure to
- encourage the Cuban government to change its policies toward the
- Cuban peoples right to free expression. More importantly, I
- would not object to the aid caravan if I thought its supplies
- would go to the people who need it. In fact, I am more inclined
- to believe the government will selectively distribute the aid
- beginning with govt officials.
- The whole situation is very sad and I feel especially sad
- about the no win situation in which the average Cuban has been
- placed as a result of a handful of selfish political leaders.
- Regardless of all the rhetoric we kick back and forth on this
- newsgroup, the fact remains that things are so bad in Cuba that
- people are constantly risking their very lives to leave their
- homes in Cuba in hopes of a better life. Of all those involved,
- I think many of these individuals deserve our sincerest
- sympathies as they have given up everything they had and knew in
- exchange for a glimmer of hope that they might enjoy a portion of
- the freedoms and opportunities that many of us received by act of birth.
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- * Jorge Kamine Arreola * "An eye for an eye leaves two men blind."
- * email: kamine@is.rice.edu * -Edward James Olmos
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