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- From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
- Subject: Re: Homosexuals should be allowed into the military
- In-Reply-To: lexier@fraser.sfu.ca's message of Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20: 24:19 GMT
- Message-ID: <9212291858.AA06117@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
- Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
- Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
- References: <lexier.725574259@sfu.ca>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:58:07 GMT
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- On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:24:19 GMT, lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Mr. Spock) said:
-
- M> Hello everyone,
-
- Highdyho.
-
- M> Homosexuals should NOT be discriminated against. Homosexuals
- M> should be allowed into the military. I cannot comprehend why so many
- M> people discriminate against gays in the military.
-
- It comes down to unit morale.
-
- To quote a Marine I know: "You're in a firefight. The guy next
- to you just had a hole blown in his gut. Are you going to shove your
- fist into his belly to stop the bleeding knowing he's at a higher risk
- of AIDS?" Whether he has AIDS or not, whether you can contract AIDS or
- not isn't the issue. The *perception* is that this is the case; and
- that effects morale. Not a good idea.
-
- Studies of co-ed vs. segregated units in Desert Shield/Desert
- Storm have shown a significant morale problem in co-ed units. Put
- crudely: not all the grunts were getting any, and that hurt morale.
- Morale directly affects unit performance; unit performance directly
- affects body counts.
-
- At this moment, with the current set of perceptions most people
- have, unit morale is going to plummet should homosexuals be mandated
- into the ranks. And that, my friends, is going to kill people.
-
- M> There are many different types of gay people, just like straight
- M> people. There are gays who are caring individuals, rabbis,
-
- Not mine. Violation of a halacha.
-
- M> charitable people in the community, teachers, fathers, doctors, and
- M> the list goes on.
-
- This was never argued.
-
- M> In fact there are more straight people who rape
- M> and kill women than there are gay men who rape and or murder other
- M> men.
-
- This is not the issue. ('Course, one could argue that there are
- a lot more straight people, but that's neither here nor there...)
-
- M> It is just in the news media where you get a different picture
- M> of gays. They are always so ready to broadcast a sick faggot who
- M> raped and murdered ten young boys, yet they don't report good and
- M> honorable gays who have contributed to our community at large.
-
- Of course, the media is also so quick to portray the sick
- african-american who raped and murdered a young woman, or the sick WASP
- who blazed away in a Luby's while people cowered under the tables, or
- the sick... Face it, the media thrives on bad news; it sells.
-
- -- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
- "So why is this in s.c.j anyway? Is there a soc.military?"
-