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- From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
- Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
- Message-ID: <Bzu2xq.F5J@ncifcrf.gov>
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- Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
- References: <34133@twics.co.jp>
- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 21:13:02 GMT
- Lines: 94
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- I'm glad to know that you, Mr. "anonymous" dcroz, finally showed guts to
- respond to my posting.
-
- In article <34133@twics.co.jp> dcroz@twics.co.jp writes:
- >--Michiaki writes:
-
- >=}Most Japanese rather suffer from an inferiority complex towards Americans.
-
- > Here we go again. Keep repeating anything, no matter how silly, and many
- >people will eventually come to believe it.
-
- Whenever it's necessary, I'd be ready to go again and again.
- You stated as if many people didn't believe it, but this is the expression
- of your ignorance.
-
- >=}If there is a racism among Japanese against navy servicemen, I'd assume that
- >=}there WAS something that converted the attitude of Japanese in Yokosuka from
- >=}inferiority complex to hostility or despise.
-
- > Oh, *now* I see. Japanese racism is okay because the objects thereof
- >deserve it.
-
- No, you never saw and will never see as long as you call it "racism."
- Do you call "irezumi okotowari" (No tattooed person allowed) as "racism"?
-
- >=}Puke! How sickening!
-
- > And you say that my style reminds you of R.A.? How quaint.
-
- No. I said, "someone." "R.A." is your word. I wonder if you found your
- postings have anything in common with R.A.'s?
-
- >=}How much can you tell about Japanese culture from which you segregate
- >=}yourself?
-
- > What in the world gives you the idea that I do now or have in the past
- >segregated myself from Japanese culture?
-
- Do you really want to know what gave me the idea, eh? Your superficial
- interpretation of Japanese culture, your one-sided view of Japanese
- mentality and your having an unreasonably hard time in Japan.
-
- > This is an unwarranted and false
- >assumption.
-
- Prove it.
-
- >=}If someone has a biased view based on racism, that person should not whine
- >=}about someone else's racism.
-
- > This line of reasoning has at least two fatal flaws.
-
- > Firstly, it assumes that "someone," in this case American servicemen, do
- >indeed have "a biased view based on racism." A very PC assumption, but not a
- >reasoned argument. You must either demonstrate it or abandon this defense.
-
- I'm afraid that you have digged a hole for yourself. YOU are the one who
- ALWAYS assumes that "someone," in this case all the Japanese, do indeed have
- "a biased view based on racism," aren't you?
-
- > Secondly, it posits that one can *lose* a basic human right. This seems
- >an odd idea to me, and I doubt that I'd get much mileage out of saying that
- >Japanese in the States should shut up about any and all racist discrimination
- >they encounter because they are not perfectly free from racism themselves.
-
- Another assumption, eh? Your aim seems to be to convince people that not
- only Japanese in Japan but also all the Japanese on this planet are
- racists.
-
- > You're right, unfortunately, it is "nothing novel." Neither is it a valid
- >argument, and if it seems "reasonable" to you, I'd suggest you try substituting
- >various other offenses for "racism" and see how it looks.
-
- Then, how valid is it to say, "I hate all the Japanese. I don't want to
- make a single friend out of Japanese. However, all the Japanese have to be
- friendly, supportive and hospitable to me"?
-
- >=}By any chance, do you have access to an account at CMU? Your style reminds me
- >=}of someone.
- >
- > Oh, how sad. My first ad hominem argument in soc.culture.japan.
- >
- > Well, I guess you got me. You're right, I'm a jerk and you're not, so
- >your opinions are correct and mine not.
-
- In addition, yours seems to be hard to correct. Many netters who tried to
- correct it appear to have already given up. Or is it just because of the
- Holidays?
-
- > End of discussion.
-
- I didn't expect that whiner's guts would last long anyway.
-
- --Michiaki
-