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- From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
- Subject: hypocrisy of zionism (was Re: 7642)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.024712.2335@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>
- Date: 1 Jan 93 02:47:12 EST
- References: <1992Dec28.184829.2311@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> <1992Dec29.205623.21746@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- In article <1992Dec29.205623.21746@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, carasso@Turing.ORG (Roger Carasso) writes:
- > minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
- >>
- >>the philosophy of zionism did not specify jews as a religious
- >>community but as a racial community.
- >
- > Jews are not a race, Jews are a People.
- > You can be born a Jew, or Convert.
- > I was born Jewish. My girlfriend Converted.
- > We will be Israeli citizens and live in Israel.
-
- which brings me back to my original point. the religious definition of a jew is
- one who believes in the religion and practices mosaic law. if that is the case,
- then you can not even say that half the people in israel can be allowed
- citizenship. if you want to go with the zionist definition, one who is of
- jewish ancestry (no precondition of being that on either the mother's side or
- father's side) then you must include the palestinians both inside israel, and
- in the occupied lands as israeli citizens becaus there is not question that
- they are of jewish ancestry, and i state again that they, whether they are
- muslims or christians are more pure jews than the european invaders.
-
- >
- >
- > [
- > To vote in the U.S. you have to be a U.S. citizen. You can either be
- > born in the U.S. or become naturalized. Native Indians who were on
- > the land when the U.S. was made independent were eventually made
- > citizens.
- >
- > To vote in israel you have to be an israeli citizen. you either have
- > to be born a jew or become one. Arabs who stayed in israel in 1948
- > also are Israeli citizens and can vote.
- >
- > The U.S. doesn't allow other indian tribes outside the U.S. to
- > vote, and neither does Israel.
- > ]
- >
-
- look man do not talk to me about american indians because you will open up a
- potential can of worms about that in hte compare and contrast with how american
- indians were being mistreated compared to how even palestinians who are citizen
- of israel are treated. you talk about voting and all of that. think back to the
- 60's here in this wonderful country that you are in, carasso. the name of the
- game in israel, carasso, is apartheid. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. here is
- another magic word for you. hypocrisy, the zionist philosophy is good for peter
- but not for paul. why so?
-
- zafar
-