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- From: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
- Subject: RE: What is H a m a s ??
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 23:01:31 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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- A. Faris writes:
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- >In article <1hsejcINNf3k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ha
- >za H. Salah) writes:
- >|>
- >|> Stop your lies about Islam and muslims. I would like you to give me
- >|> where in a Quran it says what Hamas is doing is wrong.
-
- >My understanding of the Qur'an it says the following which supports Tamer's
- >argument: "Kill those who try to destroy your faith". In this case his argument
- >is based on the fact those Jews being killed by HAMAS are not destroying
- >Islam they are rather occupying Palestine and that is a political conflict
- >not a religious one.
-
- Sorry to say that is your understanding is totally wrong. Where in Quran
- tht such a verse exist? Go ahead and try to find one, maybe you will
- prove to yourself that you know nothing about what islam teaches.
-
- The most dangerous thing is to talk about something that you
- don't know about.
-
- >|>
- >|> You're either one of these two , a jew or a christian who hates Islam and
- >|> muslims -or- some idiot who just doesn't know what he is talking about.
-
- >I think the time has come for you to calm down.
-
- It is my business to calm down or not. Actually the semester is
- over for me now. :-)
- Anyways, Why don't you tell this to yourself and stop posting your
- famous phrase, "Islam and all religion had failed thousand of years ago."
- Did I tell you to calm down??
-
- >Christians do not hate Islam.
-
- Your posts and what goes on in Iraq, Bosnia, Algeria, Izerbajan, etc are
- self-explanatory. Dont come and tell me look at Somalia! It is part
- of their startegy: kill them in many countries and feed them in another,
- just to decieve them.
-
- >you are being educated by Christians and with books written by Christians.
- >Christians hate do be discriminated against by Islam, and this is a fundemantal
- >issue that you always fail to comprehend.
-
- I can tell historical things on how much europe and the west benifited
- from muslims, but lets leave that aside...
-
- Really, what you are saying is reminding me of a story in the Quran about
- Moses and Pharaon. When Moses came and asked Pharaon to beleive in him
- and asked him to send jews with him, Pharaon told him that how come you,
- Moses, started making trouble and are not accepting me as your God. He also
- told him that you were among us and we raised you since you were a baby and
- did so many favors for you, and now look what you are doing, you are not
- appreciating what we've done to you. -- The same like what you're telling
- me, you are beign educated by christians -- Moses told him this: How do you
- compare this such a favour to what you are doing to the people of Israel who
- you are killing and murdering their boys, making them slaves, and humilating
- them.
-
- -Al Hamdolilah Al thee Ja'alana Muslimeen and learn from Quran-
-
- By the same token, my education doesn't count as a favor to what christians
- are doing to muslims all over the world. Like some jews argue that by
- their little help to muslims in Bosnia, Palestine should be left for them.
-
- France at time of conolizing Algeria, erased the arabic language from it
- for 3 generations. The algerian who used to get caught reading any arabic
- paper would go to jail for 10-15 years. Sabrah and Shatilah and the Gulf
- war are not too far ago, and stories go on and on. This is the
- christianity that has a favor on me. If it were not for their cunning
- and unfair policy in the middle east, I would have not been here.
-
- > Christians hate the fact that Islam
- >calls them "INFIDALS" when you are told to respect the Christian faith.
- >Christians hate the fact that Islam calls them "Nejis" (dirty) when you are
- >told to respect their faith.
-
- Do you mean that Islam is contrudicting itself? Or do you mean
- that I don't understand Islam?
-
- >Christians hate the fact that Islam blocks them
- >from participating in the political process to protect their land and families
- >and be as productive as Muslims. I suggest that you read and educate yourself
- >so that you know what are you talking about also.
-
- You know very well that is not true. Previous people explained to you
- that Islam gives the people of the book full autonomy and they are free
- to do whatever they like as long as there is no conflict with Islam values.
- Islam had done this, and is going to do it.
- If you don't like for the Islam to govern and be a major power, it is
- a different story.
-
- >|>
- >|> If these two don't fit your description, prove otherwise.
- >|>
- >|> I would like you once to respond to a jew post, or is it really these
- >|> muslims who you are after. huh?
-
- >I think he is being objective and honest about his interpretation of his
- >Islamic faith.
-
- The same like you..
-
- >|>
-
- >|>
- >|> Muslims don't have holdiays at this time of the year.
- >|> However, it is ok if you're christian to say it for non-muslims.
-
- >What is wrong with being festive?.
- Christmas and Hanuka are not islamic.
-
- >A.Faris
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