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- From: q2tj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
- Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
- Subject: Re: racism
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.165945.16642@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 16:59:45 EST
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- Organization: Cornell University
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- rdailey@netlink.cts.com (Ron Dailey) writes:
- > I'm neew to this network but I am appaled at the ignorance of the
- > writer's about their history. Racism is at its heartis ECONOMIC. It was
- > created by europeans as a justification for the rape and pillage of the
- > rest of the world. Whaat most of the white writers are cinfused about is
- > that they tend to equate the economic basis of racism with the individual
- > issues of predjudice.
-
- Hey buddy, get yer keyboard fiiiiixed ;-)
-
- (thanks for your comments)
-
- I'm glad someone brought this issue up. Here, at an illustrious
- Ivy league institution, black and white students argue on
- this issue whenever the two groups meet in public forums
- (like sensitivity workshops, letters to editor of school
- newspaper, racism-related-classes, debates with administrators)
-
- And boy do the cliches start to fly hot and heavy!!!!!
-
- Now, please correct me if the following is in anyway unfamiliar
- or distorted.
-
- The story always seems to be the same. The black students use the
- word racism in a collective sense (as in "institutional racism").
- The white students only use the word to express what is contained
- in the individual (ie. racism is a synonym for extreme prejudice that
- takes a political expression, ie. Klan etc.)
-
- No one wants to even seriously consider the viability of the
- collective versus the individual; and what sort of collective
- approaches are to be used (Marxist? Social-Utopian? post-structural-
- semiotic whatever the hell that is??? ;-) Well, pretty soon the
- whole discussion gets pretty stupid pretty fast. (as everyone is
- pretty set in their ways, we all know how conservative young
- people are since they are since they are still young enough
- to know everything.)
-
- And it all seems soooo predictable. Someone will say
- "prejudice + power = racism, whites have the power. it's
- a white-power-establishment by and for whites, so they're
- *all* racist, by definition" Of course, no one likes to have
- the finger pointed at them, so most of the white students will
- get irritated (and not listen to blacks).
-
- I don't really see the point. This is typical fare for student
- demonstrations and ralleys....and it's pretty shallow.
-
- If prejudice+power=racism, then only Rockefeller can be racist ;-)
-
- Also, if we accept this equation, then the Black Power movement
- would have to be labelled as "pre-racist"
-
- I think there's a lot of psychology in additions to economics that gets
- mixed in with this racism mess and that a very broad eclectic approach
- is needed. I'm not sure that coming from a left wing political/economic
- point of view is needed. Anyway, what I see is that these issues
- are going to have to be discussed in a much more sophisticated and broad
- way if they are going to be taken seriously in an academic setting
- (among students)
-
- And if your goal is actually to influence the way whites think, I suspect
- that depolitization of the analysis may be more effective .
- (ie. NO MARXISM ;-)
-
- Steve Seidman
-
-