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- From: craigen@ace.acadiau.ca (DOUGLAS CRAIGEN)
- Subject: Re: Tapping a pop can
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:34:36 GMT
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- In article <1h2oi5INN2os@uwm.edu> gunter@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David O Gunter) writes:
- >From: gunter@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David O Gunter)
- >Subject: Re: Tapping a pop can
- >Date: 20 Dec 1992 21:28:37 GMT
- >From article <BzKMK1.G7p@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, by mkohlhaa@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mike):
- >> Hello. A friend and I were recently discussing the often-performed practice
- >> of tapping the lid of a pop/beer can after it has been dropped, which
- >> thereby relieves the pressure within and your beverage doesn't explode.
- >>
- >> Anyhow, I was pondering this and with my *limited* knowledge of physics this
- >> made no sense to me. Does anyone know if this really works, and if so,
- >> can give a physics explanation for it?
- >>
- >> -- Mike
- >
- >Well, this is just a guess, but I would think that by tapping the can you
- >are causing the CO2 gas molecules dissolved within the liquid to shake free
- >and settle to the top of the can. The pressure doesn't actually decrease.
- >(If you think about it, why should pressure decrease when you are agitating
- >the system, thus increasing it's energy.) Rather, when you open the can,
- >the gas is closer to the opening and is released without the accompanying
- >spray of liquid, since it is now separated.
- >--
- > | It takes a big man to cry. But it takes a
- >david gunter | bigger man to laugh at that man.
- >gunter@csd4.csd.uwm.edu | -J. Handy
- >gunter@mcs.anl.gov |
-
- The last time I saw this discussion one of the participants claimed to
- have pressure guages in enclosed carbonated containers, and that nothing to
- do with movement of the containers (shaking, dropping, tapping) has any
- effect on the internal pressure. In other words, the various foaming,
- or spraying effects seen are due to something besides pressure effects.
-
- As I recall, it wasn't even obvious that there really is such an effect.
- People will swear by a wide variety of mutually contradictory things. For
- example, several years ago I was shown a summary of a reader poll (Ann
- Landers or something like that) on the question "how do you boil an egg so
- that the shell never sticks". Some answers said that ever since they
- started salting the water they have never had the shell stick. Others said
- that ever since they STOPPED salting the water they have never had a shell
- stick. The same results came in on adding vinegar to the water, brown vs.
- white eggs, pricking the shell with a pin ...... In other words, just
- because a bunch of your friends always tap the top of their beer can,
- doesn't mean that it actually has any effect.
-
- As a scientist, I think you should proceed something as follows to
- establish some hard data to try explaining. Take a couple of cases of beer
- and perform an experiment as follows:
- 1. Open 3 "control" cans and note the degree of foaming. (Better drink
- them them to avoid waste.)
- 2. Shake 3 cans vigorously for 1 minute and open them. Note the degree of
- foaming. (Best to avoid waste again.)
- 3. Shake 3 cans vigorously for 3 minutes and open them. Note the degree of
- foaming. (As usual concerning waste.)
- 4. Shake 3 cans vigorously for 1 minute and tap once on the top. Open them
- and note the degree of foaming. (Remember, don't waste any.)
- 5. Shake 3 cans vigorously for 1 minute and tap 3 times on the top. Open
- them and note the degree of foaming. (No wasting!)
- I'm sure you are a good enough scientist to fill the details for the
- rest of the experiment. Actually, I'm starting to suspect the integrity of
- the data....
-
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