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- From: joechip@hardy.u.washington.edu (Erich Vandenloos)
- Subject: Re: MINDWALK - An exercise in Passionate Thought
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.073704.26803@u.washington.edu>
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- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:37:04 GMT
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- >>Still putting the screws to Ma Earth,
- >>Erich Vandenloos
-
- >Pretty Strong Stuff!! - not at all - nice to see you following the
- >classical line.
-
- >"Let's put Mother Nature on the rack, that she might reveal her treasures"
- Bacon
-
- >Nice to see that you have so internalised the thoughts of your masters
- >that you consider them your own, so imprinted on your physical being that
- >it legitimates your emotions.
-
- 'Twas a joke, son. Although its nice to see that _your_ masters have done
- such a good job that you don't even recognize having them. I at least
- acknowledge my intellectual heritage (which, I am not ashamed to say, I
- think is glorious and beautiful and good in a way which the likes of you
- will never grasp).
-
- As for the rest of your screed, if I could plough through it (ooops!
- ploughing is so aggressive and male!) I would formulate a more thorough
- response, but this will have to do:
-
- Nick insists:
-
- >Now some more enlightened scientists, are coming to a greater conscious
- >realisation of this "Wholeness and the implicate order" and are beginning
- >to develop theories/methodologies that will point the way to more
- >coherent ideas in all fields.
-
- Wrong! Which enlightened scientists are you referring to, Terrence McKenna
- or Wilhelm Reich? Or maybe R.A. Wilson, high priest of cheap bourgeois self-
- indulgence and penny-ante mysticism for the lumpen-intellectual classes?
- That's about the only examples I can come up with, since most scientists
- are too busy doing real work to sit around dropping acid and "feeling."
-
- >This restoration of the objective value of subjectivity has consequences,
- >one of which is the growing awareness of the totally irrational way we
- >manage (or mismanage) the ecosphere - the position of brain (and body)
- >dead technicians in our political/economic/military power structures will
- >become increasingly intolerable.
-
- I simply cannot fathom what you mean by "objective value of subjectivity,"
- although the cadence of the phrase does have a certain idiot symmetry. More
- to the point, why should one take issue with the irrational way we manage
- the world if you've rejected rationality to begin with? It seems like any
- irrational destruction going on would be much to your liking (at least
- ideologically if not, say, aesthetically). I might add that I too would
- like to root out "brain (and body)-dead technicians in our (blah blah)"
- wherever they may be and replace them with live, vigorous technicians more
- competent at suppressing people like you.
-
- Desirous of putting screws to more than Ma Earth (do you need a smile to see
- I'm kidding, Nick?),
-
- Erich Vandenloos
- joechip@u.washington.edu
-