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- From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
- Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
- Subject: Conrad Bullock biased?!? No way, Jose!!\
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:37:05 GMT
- Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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- References: <1992Dec29.090620.4276@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Dec30.123111.12998@waikato.ac.nz> <1992Dec30.004209.20833@walter.bellcore.com>,<1992Dec30.115526.29274@actrix.gen.nz>
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- In article <1992Dec30.115526.29274@actrix.gen.nz>, conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock) writes:
- >
- >Well, I was watching the game, and nobody (commentators or the crowd)
- >noticed the 'outburst' - or at least it didn't become an obvious issue
- >at the time - the first I knew was when I heard about the suspension
- >on the news.
-
- This seems to happen on a number of occasions, when the spectator at the ground
- misses quite a bit of the goings on because he cannot get as close as a TV
- camera to the action in middle. When I used to be at the ground watching a
- game, I would see a certain incident in a particular way, but would be
- corrected later in the evening by my Dad who sat at home and watched the same
- game on the TV. Boy would I be mad to be contradicted by a person who was not
- even at the ground!! I wish I had those times again, so that I could tell my
- Dad that he was right all along. :--(
-
- >The bowler (and all the Pakistani players) appealed. The square leg
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- This feature of the Pakistan cricket team has been caught on celluloid so
- often, that if even one player does not appeal, then the umpire can safely say
- "not out"!! :--)
-
- >umpire called no-ball (No ball because the ball passed above the
- >shoulder height (when standing) of the batsman). The bowler looked
- >incredulous. This is when the incident apparently took place - comments
- >were directed at the umpire, rather than the usual disappointment
- >swearing under the breath.
-
- >At this stage Crowe apparently spoke to Javed Miandad, and Javed
- >Miandad spoke to his bowler.
-
- I am surprised that Crowe had to come to the umpire's defense. Despite the
- fact that Crowe is the hometeam captain, isn't it the umpire's lookout to
- prevent use of offensive language on the field? Just curious, no side-taking
- here.
-
- >
- >I was confused by the whole thing - Did Aaqib Javed not realise it had
- >been noballed? Was he pissed off at the apparent catch not being given,
- >or was it the no-ball call? If it was the no-ball call, why was his
- >anger directed at the umpire behind the wickets - not the square leg
- >umpire?
- >
- >After the match, the umpire made a report to the match referee,
- >Australian Peter Burge. After a hearing, with evidence from both sides,
- >Aaqib Javed was suspended for one game - the 3rd ODI (Played earlier
- >today, Pak 139 all out, NZ 140/4, NZ win the series 2-1), and is
- >eligible to rejoin the tem for the test in Hamilton, Jan 2-6.
- >
-
- >I didn't think Jones was out, but then I'm posting from a .nz address,
- >so I am obviously biased.
-
- Why this jab, Conrad? :--) Though I did notice a few netters staying off the
- net because of the "jingoism that rules the netwaves on rsc", I did not realise
- it was so bad. If your address (.nz) makes you biased in favour of New Zealand,
- then my name should make me biased in favour of India (if people can recognize
- my name as Indian). Though I will never have any doubt about whom I support
- when India is involved in a game, I don't think I have to defend my words all
- the time, saying I am not biased. I would like to think that my posts on rsc
- speak for themselves, rather than my own proclamations from time to time.
-
- Now, on to my favorite pastime - DIGRESSION. I saw the recent issue of
- Sportstar in which the Kirsten-Kapil-Wessels issue has been dealt with in
- greater detail than we have so far seen. I know I should not be beating a dead
- horse, but I thought I'll share a few bits of info.
-
- Kirsten was caught out of the crease by Kapil three times before the actual
- running out, according to the report. Once, Kapil warned Kirsten. Next time,
- warning again. Third time, Kapil took the bails off to make his point but did
- not appeal. Fourth time, Kapil appealed and the umpire lifted one finger.
- Kirsten gave Kapil two fingers, and Kapil bared his teeth and showed his three
- fingers saying that he warned Kirsten thrice. The report says, I reproduce,
- "Kepler Wessels suddenly lost his cool and he said something from the other
- end. Wessels then made his feelings known when he struck Kapil with his bat
- during the course of turning for a second run a little later. It was developing
- into a rugby game....".
-
- Lloyd declined to rule on the controversy because he was not provided with the
- actual footage of the incident. He was not inclined to face Wessels' attorney,
- the report says, by ruling in the absence of evidence. The fine on Kirsten is
- said to be a pittance when compared to the fees they get for the games.
-
- Also, the report goes on to rue the fact that in England when Pakistan was
- playing England, the series was not adjudicated with the commitment and honesty
- shown by Lloyd here in RSA. If there had been someone like Lloyd, perhaps the
- people would have had access to truth in accusations on the Pak fast bowlers.
- Instead, what was seen was the dilly-dallying and vague claims. Here, I am
- quoting from memory and not actually reproducing the reports.
-