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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: SWR Tuning and PLL
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.153913.25266@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
- References: <BzF5t6.I3B@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Dec18.213844.7701@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> <1992Dec20.144424.1428@ke4zv.uucp> <92Dec23.221805.26134@acs.ucalgary.ca>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:39:13 GMT
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- In article <92Dec23.221805.26134@acs.ucalgary.ca> ming@enel.ucalgary.ca (Yang Ming) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec20.144424.1428@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec18.213844.7701@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
- >>>v054rtzw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (RUFUS) writes:
- >>>:
- >>>: Jason,
- >>>: An SWR meter measures the Standing Wave Ratio hence SWR. What SWR is is the
- >>>: amount of reflexed power recieved by your rig from a mistuned antenna. A
- >>>
- >>>Close. It is the ratio between the power reaching the antenna and the power
- >>>reflected by the antenna.
- >>
- >>The SWR, properly the VSWR, is the ratio of the forward voltage on the
- >>line to the reverse voltage on the line at any point along the line.
- >
- >This is conceptually incorrect. VSWR = Vmax/Vmin, not the ratio of
- >the 'forward' to the 'reverse' voltage. Your definition is the inverse
- >of the reflection coefficient.
-
- Well to be precise, VSWR = (1+sqrt(Vr^2/Vf^2))/(1-sqrt(Vr^2/Vf^2)).
- It's a ratio of the two voltages, Note that to find Vmax and Vmin you
- need a slotted line and a movable RF probe because the two values will
- not occur at the same point on the line. You also have to subtract out
- the voltage that would be present in the matched case since it serves
- as a fixed offset to the standing wave voltage. VSWR meters work by a
- different principle. They directly measure the forward and reverse waves
- at a particular point on the line using a pair of directional couplers.
- And, using a specially marked scale, they use the indicating meter
- as an analog computer to calculate the actual VSWR of the line from
- those measured values. This works at any single point along the line.
-
- >>The "standing wave" is the vector sum of these two voltages. All the
- >
- >Correct.
- >
- >>power injected into the transmission line by the transmitter is dissipated
- >>in either the antenna or the line losses, none is absorbed by the radio. A
- >
- >The power reflected from the transmission line and the antenna due to
- >mismatch CAN be absorbed by the radio, depending on the impedance
- >when you look into the radio from the transmission line. If this impedance
- >is equal to the characteristic impedance of the line, all reflected power
- >will be absorbed by the radio. Thus, power injected into transmission line
- >can be reflected and absorbed by the radio. You have to look at the
- >match conditions on the two ends of the line.
-
- This is where it gets interesting. A transmitter is not a load. An
- impedance is made up of a combination of resistance and reactance,
- either of which may be zero. Now a properly tuned antenna will have
- the reactance cancelled and only the radiation resistance will be
- present. It is a pure dissipative load. If uncancelled reactance is
- present, it won't be a pure dissipative load, but will still accept
- power. The reactance can't dissipate power, and after a bit of oscillating
- back and forth, the power will be absorbed by the resistive part of the
- impedance and dissipated. Only a real dissipative resistance can absorb
- power.
-
- But when you look into the output port of an operating transmitter, you
- don't see a dissipative load. Instead you see the transformed dynamic
- load line of the output device. This product of dynamic operating voltage
- and current can be mathematically transformed to appear the same as a real
- resistance, but it isn't a dissipative load. The output matching network,
- a purely reactive transformer, will transform the load line "resistance"
- to the characteristic impedance of the transmission line where the power
- will flow to a dissipative load and be absorbed. Power flowing the other
- way will be transformed up to the load line impedance by the output
- network, now acting as an input network. These voltages and currents will
- now superpose on the dynamic voltages and currents of the output device
- and add vectorially with them. This shifts the value of the load line
- such that the incoming reverse wave is not matched anymore. Remember this
- isn't a real resistor, it's a dynamic mathematical fiction. Since the
- reverse wave cannot be larger than the forward wave by definition, power
- continues to flow outward from the transmitter toward the load, now
- including the re-reflected reverse wave. This is called a conjugate
- mirror. The only effect of the reverse wave on the transmitter is to
- shift the operating point, which under certain conditions can reduce
- the *efficiency* with which the stage turns DC power to RF power.
- *That* can cause the output stage to get hot, but it has *absorbed*
- none of the reverse power. It is not a load.
-
- Gary
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