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- From: jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts)
- Newsgroups: rec.photo
- Subject: Re: Photographing people; need permission?
- Message-ID: <346@metran.UUCP>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 07:15:43 GMT
- References: <1993Jan2.224731.20546@afterlife.ncsc.mil>
- Organization: Metran Technology, Tampa, Florida
- Lines: 82
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- mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil (M. Scott Smith) writes:
- :
- : I was practicing taking pictures the other day at a park, and there was
- : a lady with two kids feeding ducks that I thought would make a great picture,
- : but I didn't take it because I began to wonder if I would be breaking any
- : laws of etiquette (or plain old laws) by not getting permission from her.
-
- In the U.S., at least, you would be breaking no laws by doing this (but I
- hear things are different in Saudia Arabia...). You have the legal right
- to photograph anything you have the legal right to see with your own eyes.
-
- I guess there are a few exceptions, like court proceedings, but mostly you
- can go by the above rule. Note that if you poke your camera into someone's
- bedroom window, you are violating their right to privacy, which is a no-no.
- Also, if you are on private property, any actions on your part are subject
- to approval to the property owner. For example, a bank will not approve of
- you taking pictures inside, and in many shopping malls, the mall security
- will ask you to leave if you are snapping pictures.
-
- If you are on public property (i.e., a sidewalk) you are generally very
- safe, but there are still some exceptions, like, would you believe, that
- it is illegal in the U.S. to photograph a post office? I think this applies
- to some (or all?) other U.S. federal government buildings. But this is sort
- of like the laws against photographing money -- it's done all the time, but
- very few people get bothered about it.
-
- On the other side, there are people who react *very* negatively to being
- photographed, even though there is no law broken or harm done of any kind.
- I was even told once, in a threatening manner, by a police officer that I
- did not have the "right" to photograph him!
-
- : A little silly in that case, I suppose, but are there any "rules" that should
- : be followed when taking pictures of total strangers?
-
- No "rules", just your own common sense and intuition. Try to feel out whether
- the subject will mind. Absolutely do maintain a positive, friendly attitude,
- and if in doubt, just ask, "Is it ok if I photograph you?". If you do this
- just right, you will vastly increase your chances of receiving a positive
- response. Mostly, people just want the reassurance that you're not trying
- to take unfair advantage of them in a way that they will later regret.
-
- :I assume this would probably depend on what was being done with the photograph.
-
- I get this a lot. My suggestion is that you come up with an appropriate
- white lie, like, "I'm a freelance photographer working for European magazines."
- Actually, you can probably come up with something better. Try telling them
- you are doing an assignment for a photography class. That should work.
-
- : My intuition tells me that you can take pictures of whatever you want, or
- : whoever you want, as long as it's in a public place, without obtaining
- : permission.
-
- That is fairly accurate.
-
- : But is this true? What if I'm taking a picture of a bunch of people walking
- : down a street in a big city? Or what if I make a specific person the
- : unknowing subject of a photograph?
-
- The only real problems occur if and when you *publish* the photograph. Note
- that by "publish", I mean "make public". It doesn't have to be put into
- print. Hanging the print in an art gallery is one way of publishing it.
- In this case, it is best to have a model release.
-
- : I guess these are probably stupid questions, and I guess they're fueled by
- : my habit of always being "polite". It would make me nervous to take a picture
- :of a total stranger, especially if this was considered an inpolite (or illegal)
- : thing to do..
-
- There is nothing wrong with being polite with your subjects. However, being
- nervous will likely lead to their being suspicious of you. I suggest you
- work on being courteous toward your subjects. After all, you are photographing
- them, not gunning them down in cold blood, right?
-
- One thing I've noticed is that if I say "thank you" to my subjects, whether
- or not I have asked for their permission, it allows me to leave them with
- a positive feeling. This is very important to both them and me. I find it
- much easier to approach the next people if I have shown my appreciation to
- the ones I have just left.
- --
- Jay Ts
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