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- References: <1992Dec14.210445.24143@adobe.com> <1992Dec14.232013.25930@walter.bellcore.com> <BzDpoo.Joq@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> <PD.92Dec17105919@horus.sics.se> <1992Dec17.062322.8914@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:08:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec17.062322.8914@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
- > In <PD.92Dec17105919@horus.sics.se> pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) writes:
- >
- >>In article <BzDpoo.Joq@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> twtan@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Tack Wee Tan) writes:
- >
- >>>Over a long run, buying rechargable AAs instead of alkaline would
- >>>make it even more cost effective.
- >
- >>Yes, that definitely is an advantage with AAs. Why can't somebody make
- >>a 2CR5-shaped rechargable?
- >
- > Well, I guess the battery manufacturers figure that nicads don't have
- > the right characteristics that users have come to expect from lithiums
- > (fairly straight discharge curve, etc., etc.). If a lithium 2CR5 only
- > lasts 5 rolls for some users, a nicad version it might not make it
- > through one roll! (Actually, I think someone posted saying this is
- > what happened when they tried it!)
- >
- > Supposedly there is a battery technology that may be able to provide
- > the equivalent of a rechargeable 2CR5--nickel metal-hydride. Hope it
- > happens soon!
- >
-
- Well, ah as it happens I inquired recently about Gates 1100mAHr NiMH cells.
- Not available. Would I like a 1AHr NiCd or NiMH instead? Why? I ask.
- It seems than those wonderous IQ 5 people in DC don't want all that top secret
- NiMH technology to fall in to nasty commie hands so they have put an export
- control on the Gates cells. We import NiMH cells from China instead...
-
- As to a rechargable 2CR5, it would be of very low capacity. Li cells are 3v,
- 2 gives 6v. We need 5 NiCds to match the voltage. A 2CR5 is rated at 1350mAHr,
- we can just get 1000 out of a simular sized NiCd. So we are down about 25% of
- coulombs, and we still have to find room for 3 more cells...
-
- The discharge curves are about the same, flat to the near bitter end. They also
- can share the nasty habit of going bang if shorted.
-
- The *BIG* difference is shelf life. At the moment I need to change AA NiCds
- about every 10-12 days, irrespective of use due to self discharge in the
- 30C+ days. Li's and NiMH cells are better in this regard.
-
- BTW, after 16 months I am still using the original 2CR5 in the EOS-1, when I
- remove the booster. Its down to 1 bar, but still going, and yes, I do have
- a spare.
-
- ~Paul
-
-