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- From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
- Subject: Re: On the breeds' original purposes
- References: <1h4omqINNhqt@CS.UTK.EDU>
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.171144.9076@unislc.uucp>
- Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:11:44 GMT
- Lines: 78
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- From article <1h4omqINNhqt@CS.UTK.EDU>, by primeaux@carlsberg.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux):
- >
- > Toss up for discussion: Are the original purposes of the breed so sacrosanct
- > that they can not evolve to match today's purposes of the breed?
- >
- > For the record: I do not believe they are, but I am interested in hearing
- > other perspectives -- particularly those which go beyond "but where do you
- > then draw the line on allowing change in breed specification?"
- >
- Can't pass this one up!
-
- The other day I was walking my Newf when we came upon one of our
- "walk friends" (a person we see frequently while walking, but whose
- name we don't even know; nevertheless, he loves my dog, so he's a
- Good Person!). He was trying to turn his boat over to get the
- snow and dead leaves out of it. It was a fairly heavy aluminum boat,
- and he was trying to do this on slippery ground. He asked if I'd
- help. He and I heaved from one side of the boat, trying to turn it
- over. Well, the boat had a rope on it. My Newf took the rope in
- her mouth and pulled. (Yeah, she has done the take a line and
- the boat pull exercise twice!) The two of us alone couldn't budge
- the boat. The added pull from the other side did the job.
-
- OK, so you don't necessarily want to keep a Newfoundland around the
- house on the off chance your rowboat will get iced up in the winter.
- However, my dog instinctively helps with "pull" and "draft" jobs.
- She was bred to do this. Years ago I was sitting on the beach at
- Yellowstone Lake watching my son and his fishing pole drifting
- further away from me than I thought prudent, knowing that I'm
- not a great swimmer. And I thought to myself, I'm going to get
- the dog of my dreams! At last I have a good reason for doing so!
- (Yeah, sometimes you have to have children before you can get
- certain breeds of dogs! :))
- Seriously, we spend lots of time around the water, fishing, hiking,
- etc., so a Newfoundland "fit." Yes, a Labrador would also
- partly "fit," but I didn't want the rest of the Labrador picture,
- appealing and necessary as it might be to others. (We don't hunt.)
-
- I know a really nice Newf who consistently places in Group, but
- he HATES water and he HATES draft work and he HATES obedience
- and he has absolutely NO NOSE. But boy, does he have a GREAT
- COAT! Now, in my own little world, that dog would be neutered
- faster than you could say "Take it!" But he has lots of progeny,
- and thank the almighty that the breeders found bitches
- who like to work, so about half the pups have some working
- instinct. But I think they've diluted the breed, and I think
- it sucks!
-
- What good is a Newfoundland without its basic working abilities?
- I mean, these are pretty messy, high maintenance dogs.
- I guess you could keep one around for the conversation value,
- or because you have stock in a vaccuum company, or because
- dog slobber really turns you on or something, but they
- should have some basic "Newf" ability. Oh, I know -- it's
- that great Newfie personality. Yes, but without the
- working ability, I think they start losing that personality.
- Part of many breeds' "lovingness" comes from the work
- they were bred to do: Labs are great with kids and people
- because gun dogs have to be cooperative. Etc. etc. So
- even if it's only the personality of the dog and not its
- working ability a person is interested in, that personality
- can be lost if the dog's original purpose is tampered with
- too much.
-
- That doesn't mean that individual dogs can't be aberrant.
- The occasional Newfoundland can hate the water without
- damaging the breed, unless that dog is bred and bred and
- bred with no regard to what he or she is bred to.
-
- On the other hand, dogs themselves may be archaic per se.
- All of us on this net may be arguing about something that
- will be moot in fifty years. Now there's a sobering thought!
-
- --
- Anne Beck | The difference between difficult
- abb@unislc sun!unislc!abb | dogs & vicious human beings is
- Unisys SLC UT | that difficult dogs don't rise to
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