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- From: 71431.167@compuserve.COM (REED E HARRIG)
- Subject: On the nature of light blows and too light blows
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- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:11:51 GMT
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- Carolus Wrote: "I am extremely interested in a *real* test, and am
- planning serious investigation of hat constitutes a real "good"
- blow, and comparing that to an SCA "good" blow.
- My hypothesis is that we probably *average* hard enough, but that
- many people hit far too lightly to damage, and many hit heavier
- than they need to.
- It is obvious that you do not feel this research to be of use. Why
- not?"
-
- I do not object to that kind of research. In fact, I believe that some
- research was done on this subject several years back. It used a suit
- of riveted mail (the society standard) draped over a pig (deceased).
- The results were, if my handed down information is correct, that the
- force required to pierce that mail was less than what was the
- standard some 11 - 15 years ago.
-
- Even if this was not the case and the research indicated that we all
- needed to hit like Conan to do any damage, it would not change the way
- I throw blows. Nor do I think it should. I feel I hit hard enough as
- it is. If I were to increase my average blow strength, then I would
- begin to endanger my opponent. This is true for any fighter. If you
- increase your blow strength, you put your opponent at greater risk of
- injury. I don't know what is taught to other fighters, but the first
- lesson I was taught was: 'I am primarily responsible for my opponents
- safety'.
-
- Carolus also wrote: "No, but the body language of the attacker is one
- of the many indicators that form the gestalt of 'blow delivery'. No
- spectator can accurately judge blow force, but *any* knowledgable
- spectator can tell when a blow is begun."
-
- I disagree. My experience, gleaned from about 100 hours of fighting
- video, tells me that the spectator can rarely tell when a blow starts.
- I recall when I first viewed myself on video. I was amazed that I
- could block all those shots that were thrown at me. It was only after
- spending too many hours analyzing the fights in slow motion that I
- began to truly understand the 'gestalt of blow delivery'.
-
- Carolus continues: "All good fighters try to mask (or decieve with)
- their body language. nevertheless, if you simply saber at me, you
- will have an awfully hard time getting any force into your blows."
-
- Agreed. But I do not do saber shots. My blows start from my
- shoulder. They _can_ hit very hard (I choose not to) and they give no
- more warning then what you would call a saber flick.
-
- Carolus adds: "The armour was worn for a reason: to shed blows, and
- require an opponent to hit you harder to damage, giving you an
- advantage (until he got equal armour, of course)
-
- We must all remember the Society standard: A halberk over padding with
- boiled leather arms and legs. Someone who has better armour in the SCA
- does not get an advantage. They are still required to accept strength
- of blows that would damage through the Society standard; even if they
- are wearing Maximilian fluted plate.
-
- -Palymar
-
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