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- From: dgreen@athena (David Greenebaum)
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- Subject: Re: Fighting in crown: a thought
- Date: 24 Dec 1992 07:14:04 GMT
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- Hello to all, and especially to Tibor, from Bjalfi!
-
- You write:
- >Bjalfi, you are confused.
- > 2) Acknowledge that Padraigh and Caitlin are in fact the same person,
- > so that Padraigh can fight _and_ choose a male consort. When the pair
- > step up, it's Caitlin and X, even though Caitlin (as Caitlin) had nothing
- > to do with the tourney.
- >
- >The SCA does not regulate Persona. Caitlin can play whatever mental
- >exercises she delights in, dress as she will, etcetera. It doesn't
- >matter. As long as one member of the Royal Couple is genetically
- >female and the other male, and all other membership and local requirements
- >are met, it's strictly a personal matter.
-
- Well, yes. I think we're saying much the same thing here. It's just that
- you say "Caitlin can do what she wants" and I offer an option of something
- she might want to do.
-
- >My philosophical piece of spit, is that if anyone is a resident of the
- >mythical land of the SCA, it is the King and Queen. For the duration
- >of their reign, that is where they are from. And here, in our Laurel
- >Kingdoms, women can fight and win in Crown Tourney. If your reign
- >wants to be flavored by the land you once inhabited, that makes sense.
-
- Of course the SCA allows women to fight. But Caitlin seems to have
- higher personal standards of historical authenticity than the ground
- rules of the SCA: _she_ will not allow herself, as a woman, to fight.
- So she becomes a man.
-
- >In a very real sense, the worst thing you can do to a consistent persona
- >story is become an SCA King or Queen. So many of your actions become
- >proscribed to be inauthentic. I trust Duke Cariadoc abu Patri has
- >some insight into that.
-
- Since I have no ambition to become King (well, maybe as a Consort)--
- indeed, no desire to take up heavy fighting at all--I have nothing
- to say to this. I would be interested to hear His Grace's opinions,
- though.
-
- --------------------- Bjalfi Thordharson/College of St. Katherine/Province of
- |\ | |\ |\ |// | the Mists/Principality of the Mists/West Kingdom
- | > | |\\ | \ |/ | David Greenebaum/University of California/Berkeley, CA
- |< | | \ | | | dgreen@athena.berkeley.edu, dgreen@garnet.berkeley.edu
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- |/ | | | | | "I make mistakes, but I am on the side of good -- by
- --------------------- accident and happenchance." -- the Golux
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