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- From: radler@nord.tostit.ca (Robin Adler-Pope)
- Subject: Re: Atheism and Intelligence
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.163131@tostit.ca>
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- Reply-To: radler@nord.tostit.ca (Robin Adler-Pope)
- Organization: Tostit Northern Associates, Calgary, AB
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:31:31 GMT
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- gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
- > >If by "reality" you mean the world as revealed by our senses and studied
- > >by science you might want to go back and read Plato and Spinoza.
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- > You might want to post explicitly what you appear to find
- > contradictory in his post and how you interpret their writings.
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- Plato saw the divine primordial principle as absolutely unmoving and
- unchanging; he understood the division between the divine world of
- ideas and the nondivine world of sense essentially as a separation
- between the changeable reality of this world in time and space
- and the eternally unchangeable reality above the heavens. Spinoza
- believed that God does not live apart from the universe: God is in
- the world and the world is in God. The individual self and all finite
- things are not autonomous substances but only modifications of the one
- and only divine substance.
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- -robin
-