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- From: skh4161@mvs.draper.com (Kjeld Hvatum)
- Subject: Re: IQ Test?
- Message-ID: <01GSYXPOFNKIADDCAK@ccfvx3.draper.com>
- Sender: mmdf@ns.draper.com (MMDF Master)
- Organization: Draper Laboratory
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:16:00 GMT
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- >From: "Hanan M. Herzog" <herzog@ux5.lbl.gov>
- >Message-ID: <1hubbnINN632@overload.lbl.gov>
- >
- >In article <01GSXMV9SKC6ADDCVB@ccfvx3.draper.com> skh4161@mvs.draper.com (Kjeld
- > Hvatum) writes:
- >>
- >>There are many IQ tests designed for adults. However, for most people,
- >>a reasonable estimate can be made from SAT or GRE scores.
-
- >For whom are SAT or GRE an scores unreasonable estimate of IQ?
-
- Because the SAT and GRE are high-end tests, they'd be almost useless
- in those clinical settings in which IQ tests are commonly used -
- helping to diagnose the severity of mental retardation, etc.
-
- Some school dropouts who can't read can score well on some
- IQ tests, but they wouldn't be able to score much above
- 200 on an ETS test.
-
- >Is there a minimum GPA which is a reasonable requirement for the use of
- >SAT score estimation of IQ?
-
- I wouldn't go by GPA because there are too many people who've decided to
- punt all schoolwork, even though they could score well on SATs and IQ
- tests.
-
- >For exmaple, would it be fare to judge the SAT score of someone who
- >performed poorly in high school (and learned little) against the SAT
- >score of an 'A' student for the assesment of IQ?
-
- I don't have an easy answer, partly because there are so many
- different IQ tests. For IQ tests with a heavy verbal component,
- the IQ and the SAT verbal measure pretty much the same thing.
- For someone who's read little and hasn't been exposed to a
- good vocabulary, s/he'll score better on some of the IQ tests
- than the SAT verbal, for example.
-
- >Will the student with the higher IQ always have higher SAT scores?
-
- Usually, but not always.
-
- Bottom line: Be careful when interpreting low scores - there are too
- many reasons for them. High scores, on the other hand, guarantee at
- least some kind of competence, and are a strong indication of potential.
- Unfortunately, motivation doesn't always accompany high scores.
-
- IQ's I've seen on the net recently: JFK, 119; Richard Feynman, 125.
- I'd like to what Feynam's circumstances were for that score. Had
- he shopped for the right test at the right time, I've no doubt
- he could have done a lot better. Not sure about JFK, though :-)
-