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- From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
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- Subject: Re: PEOPLE magazine: PON "Worst of Song"
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- Date: 2 Jan 93 22:23:59 GMT
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- Tom Sprott writes...
- >I have to agree with some of what was said in the People review.
- >The lyrics are a real problem for me (though the music is worth
- >it), and for others I've introduced to Phish, a total block. I'm
- >not sure why they bother writing what seems to me like 80 or 90
- >percent nonsense.
-
- I wouldn't connect Trey's & the band's songwriting with
- anyone like Dylan or Hunter. Something angular in personality
- like "Avenu Makhenu" (forgive me if it's spelled incorrect)
- directly reminds me of Zappa in terms of lyricism & tone (example:
- its minor-chorded melody), and in other songs, I can hear influences
- of early Yes (Trey's parts on Bouncing Around The Room) and Pink
- Floyd (The Curtain, the vocal a capella in Split Open & Melt).
- *Any* starting band in any given genre always have their own
- influences and inspiration: it's what you do to make it *you*
- that matters. I certainly can't think of anyone else but Phish
- playing "Wilson".;-)
-
- Dylan is Dylan: you're dealing with one of the 20th century's
- greatest lyricists; a groundbreaker whose achievements and influence
- will be preserved in music history. However, Dylan's early songwriting
- was deeply rooted in Woodie Guthrie, and various folk & blues greats...
- influences.
-
-
- Based on my paltry Phish experiences and limited listening only,
- IMHO, the band's songwriting strengths lie in musical composition.
- The complexity of "The Divided Sky" is an example: you start
- with a cheery melody, have the bizarre "divided sky" verse,
- veer off in a series of jazz-flavored changes, then end up
- taking off in an anthemic flurry of chords (yes, the NYE version
- did a lot for me:-). When I first listened to "The Divided Sky"
- on tapes, I thought its intro was the final jam, with everything
- prior a completely different entity.
-
- In due time, the band will grow comfortably with their songwriting,
- and perhaps smooth out those rough edges, but it has to be Phish.
- NOT Dylan, not any artist you can think of. The band's music
- & lyricism will mature in due time, but it's a gradual, growing
- process.
-
- >The difference is that Dylan lyrics often seem enigmatic
- >in a creative way, Phish lyrics leave me feeling rather burned.
-
- This was one of my problems when I phirst tried out Phish live.
- I thought the lyrics were nonsense, but like a good chunk of
- Santana's best work, it's the *music* that takes priority over
- the song itself: how you feel when you play *it*. While you
- may not mistake "The Divided Sky" or "Run Like An Antelope"
- for "Don't Think Twice It's All Right", they are completely
- seperate entities of music. Sometimes, simplicity can work
- wonders: listen to Neil Young's latest gem HARVEST MOON, for
- example.
-
- >That, of course, does not prevent me from listening to Divided
- >Sky, David Bowie, and all the other songs with great instrumental
- >sections.
-
- Tom, this was the problem I was having with some Phish material,
- but the music and jamming gradually grew on me. I tried ignoring
- the lyrics, but the charms of those silly lyrics give excursions
- like "The Divided Sky" and "Run Like An Antelope" their own
- unique personalities. Give it time -- it took me four shows until
- I finally got *it*.
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