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- From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
- Subject: Re: Carping and Per Diem
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.015331.8725@cs.ucla.edu>
- Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
- Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
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- Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
- Organization: in your face!
- References: <63029@mimsy.umd.edu> <8XVawB1w165w@dorsai.com> <1992Dec28.145752.19437@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 01:53:31 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec28.145752.19437@zip.eecs.umich.edu> fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields) writes:
- >In article <8XVawB1w165w@dorsai.com> idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington) writes:
- >>a professor by the way, not a student... To repeat, I know a lot of
- >>people who write dull, complex, grey music but who get off on Beethoven.
- >>This is tragic. I'm not saying go write like Beethoven, I'm just saying
- >>bang out a piece that gets you off. Not a piece which pleases your
- >>mentors.
- >Or if you prefer, when a mentor can no longer help you work out the ideas
- >you want to work out, fire them and get another mentor. You are the consumer;
- >the professors are the service-providers. Grades and degrees just confuse the
- >matter (I tend to think of them as compressed shorthand versions of letters
- >of recommendation, timesavers both for the author and the reader, things which
- >can easily be abused).
-
- It seems to me that the instructor ought not use their own taste to
- determine the "worth" of the assignment, above and beyond that it
- meets the specifications set forth by the assignment. If the
- instructor is doing that the student is within his or her rights to
- find a new instructor.
-
- One downside of this is that if you're a graduate student, this may
- imply you need to find another university. That may not be possible,
- or may not be practical (e.g. would cost too much money, or would
- unnecessarily set the student too far back). It can be a difficult
- decision. I think many graduate students, not just in music, face
- this situation, and how they deal with it depends upon how much they
- want a doctorate (and why). If someone compromises their principles
- it may be because they do not feel they have any alternatives. In
- this case the best thing to do is to make the student aware of any
- alternatives available to them.
-
- --gregbo
-